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Originally Posted by 26 to 6
It's not. Hank is a mess. I like his enthusiasm and attitude, but he doesn't know baseball. When Cash negotiated his deal with George, it was included that HE would be the baseball man. I think it's disrespectful of Hank towards not only Ca$h, but George as well. In the article I posted in the Prior thread yesterday, Hank has a quote in there that's along the lines of "in the end the final decision will be mine, i'm the owner" regarding Santana. That erks me. I hope we dont have to witness the 1980's all over again. Hopefully little Stein learned something from Big Stein's mistakes.
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To even discuss how one day he and Cashman wake up thinking they want to do the deal, and other days they disagree, and some days he wants it and other days Cashman wants it, and some days they are willing to trade Hughes and others they are not.... totally disorganized.
For all the blustering and complaining people do here talking about specifics of potential deals for the Sox, at least there seems to be someone intelligent running the ship. As far as organizational philosophy goes, Phil Hughes should have some quantifiable value that they are working from. Whether that means they see him as a 20 WinShare pitcher for the next 3 years on average and then 27 on average the few years afterwords, or they see him as much less than that, it really doesn't matter. What is funny from my end is that they appear to have said "Joba Chamberlain is not available for Johan Santana, but Phil Hughes may be." I see their values as the opposite, with Hughes being the guy with the higher upside and Chamberlain being the stopper/reliever/closer of the future. In most cases, the ace SP is more valuable than the RP.
If the Twins were willing to do Santana for Chamberlain and Melky, I would do it right away. In this case, though, it appears that the Yankees are so desperate for a player that the fans can latch onto (despite their huge spending on glorified stars like A-Rod and Abreu, who have little popularity overall) that they have labeled an otherwise tradeable piece, who may never have higher upside, untouchable. Weird.
What matters is that they have some measure by which they consistently guage players and which they use to project the future value of these players.
Hearing that they are just haphazard about what they are willing to offer makes me wonder who is really going on there, and makes me hope that Stein wakes up one of these days and just says "Screw it, I LIKED it when my dad used to assert himself and force Cashman to get big name players... spend whatever it takes, get us Johan Santana". Lord knows that Theo and Co wouldn't do any such thing at this point (or ever, as far as I can tell).