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Originally Posted by One Red Seat
No, it doesn't mean there is no middle ground. My point is that you won't change your opinion of him despite statistical measure to the contrary. Thus, you find yourself in the same group in my eyes.
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Very well then. In years past the numbers have swayed me from believing he was an exceptional shortstop to my current stance on him. But regardless whatever numbers you throw out there you won't get me to say he's a
bad shortstop, because he simply is not. Nor is he a great shortstop. He is certainly on the lower end of the scale, but not to the point where I will label him terribly detrimental. He will play a serviceable shortstop, that's all I'm saying. I still however refuse to say he's bad, because there are far worse.
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Originally Posted by BudLight
anyone, regardless of their team affiliation, cannot argue the fact that statistically, Jeter is a middle of the road shortstop, defensively. However, offensively is where he makes the difference. You can't argue with his offensive numbers throughout his career. If he were a second baseman this discussion would never take place. What amazes me the most is throughout all of these postings I have not seen the word "intangibles".
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Absolutely. And with all of that being said; middle of the road shortstop, offensive success,
intangibles, etc., that is a fair portrayal. However being a "middle of the road shortstop," which I will certainly acknowledge, doesn't mean he is a BAD shortstop. He very simply is not. Nor is he very good.