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Old 03-24-2008, 01:56 PM   #199 (permalink)
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Default Re: Iowa and the road to the Whitehouse

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Originally Posted by One Red Seat View Post
Assumption, again, and this time based on an irrelevant hypothetical. Stick to the issue.
What's the issue? Obama's a racist? He's incapable of being a good thinker or leader because he associated himself with a very popular pastor in a large black church in Chicago? Has he been secretly killing white people? Have angry blacks from Rev Wright's church done ANYTHING against whites because of the Rev's views?

Please cite.

Or is the issue "ORS likes to take down anyone with a liberal view, and will do so by trying to make those who support him feel stupid"? You claim to respect me, but them say I would vote for a pencil. Talking out of both sides doesn't convince me that you're trying to be objective or respectful.

Has Obama's relationship with a pastor actually changed your view about him? No.

Would ANY McCain association make you vote for Obama? No.

So do you in any way represent the middle group of people who may have had your views changed by the "pastorgate" scandal? No. You're like corresponding with Karl Rove. He pretends to be morally outraged when it is politically convenient, but you were morally outraged by his initial POLITICAL POLICIES, so why should your faux outrage now come as any surprise or be seen as anything objective.

You will claim that he's being hypocritical, but you've been claiming that since we started this discussion.

Someone like JHB can genuinely claim to have switched sides due to the race discussion, you cannot. You dislike Obama as much, if not more than you dislike the Yankees. My guess is that you weren't going to vote for him if he paid for your kids college loans and bought you a new car.

It doesn't matter how well either of them will do the job of president, the goal is to avoid offending conservatives at every turn. BS.

There are a whole lot of white and african american jouranlists and citizens who see Obama's speech last week and his approach to the Rev. Wright deal as very brave and important. You dismiss it out of hand.
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