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I was a little annoyed that Phil didn't come back out, but I see it as more of an organizational thing as the organization has been very conservative with the young pitchers, especially Phil since he signed back in 2004. I can't get in an uproar that they didnt bring him out after 2 delayd totaling just under an hour. I think he could have done it though. All that means is that with the thin bullpen he may be available today or tomorrow for possibly a few innings in relief, which we could use.
I had no problem pitching Joba pitching going out there for both the 8th and the 9th (totaling only 1.1 innings of work though). The game was in reach and on the line and in situations like that you go with your big gun.
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No issue with those perspectives.
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When Crede came up I was thinking that they could walk him, but he's a guy Joba can go right after and more times than not probably get out. Didn't work out last night unfortunately. But I can't complain too much.
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Except that you probably should.
Set aside that Crede is hot: use career stats, and give Ramirez credit for being roughly as good a batter as Crede, and it still looks bad. With one out, filling first base was critical, because the runner was meaningless except for creating a double play situation. The potential double play diminished the chance that Chamberlain would have to retire two more batters. Pitching to Crede guaranteed that at least two hitters would have to be retired, barring baserunner error.
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All of these are perfect second guess instances that could have gone either way. If Joba retires Crede and then Ramirez and we win the game in extras this isn't even a conversation. Sometimes a manager has to take chances. If they work out, great; you get a win. If not, you're going to be second guessed. I think he was on the ball though.
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I'm not even addressing the outcome; I'm addressing probabilities. Girardi screwed up.
Furthermore, if you want a manager who "takes chances," you should be pissed that Torre or Mattingly aren't managing, saying, "Well, gee, I had faith in Joba to get him out, and I'm gonna have faith next time, cuz Joba's a good guy." Joe Girardi is accurate, intelligent, demanding and ruthless. He scores negative "nice guy points," but he wins because he makes the right calls.
This time he didn't. Pitching to Crede was a bad call. It's indefensible from a logical perspective. Girardi was wrong.
I respect Girardi as a rule, even if I hate the Yankees, but I can't support his decision here.