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Old 05-07-2008, 03:39 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Default Re: Kennedy and Hughes out....Cashman next.

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Cashman has no idea about pitching. Zero. Worse than zero.

Yankees had a chance at Beckett and Pedro. He took Pavano.

He could have had Lilly instead of Igawa. Lilly was dying to come to New York.

Could have had Dice-K instead of Igawa.

Signed Farnsworth.

Could have traded for Santana.

Signed Contreras.

Acquired Loiaza.

Exactly who has he picked up as a lefty in the pen in the last ten years?

Kevin Brown.

Jeff Weaver.

Randy Johnson.

Got Vazquez. Traded away Vazquez. Then he got better.

Picked Ohlendorf over Micah Owings. He had his PICK. Fucked that one up too.

You want to seriously know how I knew that the Santana deal would haunt the Yankees?

Because Cashman didn't get him. He can't figure it out. He doesn't have an eye for the game, because he didn't even play wiffleball growing up.

STOP READING PRESS CLIPPINGS. WATCH THE DAMN GAME.

I hope to death I'm wrong. I just don't see what to like. Hughes has a power pitcher's control..but not a power pitcher's arm. He has a slow, sweeping curve, but has difficulty locating it.

Kennedy throws an 88-89 MPH fastball. Control is not there. Doesn't have a strong secondary pitch. Don't see how this kid will succeed.

There is a saying from baseball scouts about Yankee prospects. The closer they get to the major league level, the less the Yankees like them. If you want the wool pulled over your eyes, your choice. Not me.
Beckett would come in a trade. Pedro was finished in the American league, and has been continually hurt. Pavano was a free agent. You're comparing apples and light bulbs.

Lilly sucks. Igawa sucks. I don't see the difference.

He couldn't have had Matsuzaka. The Red Sox ridiculously overbid for his services. It wasn't a matter of Cashman being "afraid to pull the trigger." Shut up.

Signed Farnsworth. Listen, I'm the first guy to get on Farnsworth's case, but who else was he supposed to sign? They needed an arm for the bullpen. It's not like he passed up on Joe Nathan to sign Farnsworth. He got one of the best guys available in a weak market. If you haven't noticed, he's tried to stockpile arms to turn into relievers from within the last few years. But no, he has no eye for pitching.

Could have given up the farm and millions of dollars for Santana. I'm not faulting him for that.

What lefty has anyone picked up over the last 10 years? Seriously, how is he supposed to get these people? Is he supposed to wave a magic wand and force Mike Gonzalez into the Yankee bullpen? If teams aren't offering these players, they're not going to get them. If nobody is a good free agent lefty, what is Cashman supposed to do?

Brown was an upgrade over Weaver, who could not handle New York. Brown was decent, got old and that was it. Jeff Weaver would have been terrible with this team, so I don't see how you can fault him for being dealt.

Cashman acquired Weaver in 2002. Weaver's line with Detroit at the time of the trade- 121 innings, 112 hits, 4 HRs, 3.18 ERA, 33 BB, 75 Ks. Yeah, why would you make a move for a guy like that. No eye for talent, I'm telling you. Weaver's problem is that he's a headcase, something that doesn't come out when you're pitching on a terrible Tigers team, but gets magnified in New York. Shame on Cashman for not being able to see that.

Randy Johnson was a Steinbrenner move, and everyone knows that. Even if it wasn't his numbers the year before we acquired him are ridiculous. 245 innings, 290 Ks, 177 hits, 2.60 ERA, 0.90 WHIP. Oh yeah, and he was Randy fucking Johnson. Hindsight sure is good, isn't it? (Also, good to forget that Johnson went 17-8 in 2005 with a 3.79 ERA and 211 Ks in 225 innings. He was just God awful.)

This is getting repetitive, but I want to make this painfully obvious. Javier Vazquez in 2003, before the Yankees acquired him: 230 innings, 198 hits, 241 Ks, 57 BBs, 3.24 ERA, and a 1.10 WHIP. He was also an All Star in 2004 because he pitched so well for us in the first half of the season. He then had injury problems the rest of the way, and was moved for the aforementioned Randy Johnson.

Ohlendorf has pitched a total of 27.1 major league innings. And Owings has been decidedly average in the National League, with a 4.33 ERA. Cashman didn't pass on Lincecum, he passed on Owings. The only reason anybody knows his name is because he's a good hitter.
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