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Noneof that PROVES anything. You guys jump to conclusions way too quickly.
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To the contrary--that PROVES that there's a difference between their actual past mean value. I didn't make any claims about the future.
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Except that he's on a hot-streak. I'm not saying it's a fluke, but you have to do something for more than 76 games. I never said that Melky has proven much either, but you can't call somebody a proven player based on 76 games. How many is it gonna take for you guys to put him in Cooperstown, 300?
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Didn't say anything about the HoF with respect to Ellsbury. I have made such comments, IIRC, with respect to Melky Cabrera: he gets really poor support from most Yankees fans for some reason, when he's exactly the sort of player who develops into an All Star and a HoF candidate (not necessarily a HoF inductee). Ellsbury, OTOH, is the sort of player who doesn't grow into a power hitter, but who can be a very exciting and dynamic player through his twenties.
But if you want to look at the future, here's the big issue: until and unless Melky Cabrera fills out and hits for power, Ellsbury is a better player. I expect that Melky will overtake Ellsbury: I expect Melky to develop power, while I expect Ellsbury to lose speed. But right now, the two players are not especially close in value, even though I think that Melky Cabrera is one of the better center fielders in MLB. Thus far, Jacoby has simply been that good, and it's difficult to discount a nine-calendar-month stretch in MLB, including a World Series, especially when the minor league stats preceding it suggest that it's not a fluke. Check Ellsbury's stats:
MLB career stats: .319/.395/.463
MiLB career stats: .314/.390/.426
The two lines look pretty similar to me.
And, while we're checking, these stats are even a little better:
Postseason stats: .360/.429/.520
Melky Cabrera has regular-season MLB stats of .272/.337/.389 and postseason stats of .158/.158/.316. Trying to defend him rationally and objectively as being in any way as valuable as Jacoby Ellsbury is an exercise in futility.
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Go look at your stats, I'll WATCH the game.
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I hope that you enjoyed the Yankees' walk-off win last night!
Melky was 0-3...but, hey, that's just a stat.
