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Old 09-30-2008, 12:42 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Default Re: GOM's Plan to Fix the Yankees: 2009 Edition

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Wait, this is an old team, so you want to get older by adding manny and keeping abreu? That makes no sense. To be honest with you, this team has so much in flux right now and the FA market is so good that predictions and wants will change daily.
You still love untested youth at the expense of productive experience. Abreu had 100 runs, 100 RBI's and hit .290. Even a drop off will see him in the .280-80-80 range with a 3.70 OBP. Manny is a .900+ OPS hitter for the next 3 seasons.
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Again on Nady, he finished the yr at a line of .305 25HR 97RBI. He hit .268 12HR 40RBI in 59 games for us and only because he slumped for us in Sept, when we were out of it. Over the past 2 yrs, Nady has hit in the .320 range with RISP and RISP with 2 outs, something this team has badly needed. 3 of the last 4 seasons have seen him at a .800+OPS and the only season that wasnt was a yr he missed a lot of time with injury. He finally became a full time player in 2007 and since then he's been well over the .800OPS mark, based mostly on the SLG. He reminds me a lot of some of the players we had during our champioship run. Good RBI guy, good doubles guy, can hit it out, is versatile, etc. And, with Cashman returing, you better believe we didnt give up Tabata and McCutchen for half yr rentals. Both are staying, so deal with it.
Mistakes are made. The bigger mistakes are sticking with them. Was Nady/Marte a mistake? No. It just didn't work out, since the Yankees didn't make the playoffs. Jacko, saying that Nady slumped but it didn't matter because we are out of it is laughable. So Cano's resurgence didn't mean anything? Neither did Hughes good starts? Or Phil Coke? Or Brett Gardner? Come on, buddy. You dropped the soap on that one.

Also, Nady's OPS since 2005: .760, .790, .806, .867. The .867 OPS is highly skewed to his time in Pittsburgh. He had a .793 OPS with us. That is more in line with what he'd be. What we saw in New York is what we'd get over a season. I'm not that impressed. He has the most value in a trade, so I'd dump him, recoup some of what you gave up. Holding on to prove a point is what hurt us initially in not getting Santana, and then not trading for CC. Remember, this is what we SHOULD do, not what Cashman would do. If Cashman comes back, look for another 3rd place finish while touting youth. When that youth arrives and it sucks, it will be "Oops. I guess I missed...but wait..there is this 12 year old parapalegic we signed from Burkina Faso who will be the next Hall of Famer, once he recovers from Tommy John surgery". What I'm saying is that I'd like to use Nady and Marte to recoup some of the draft picks lost [i.e. prospects] in signing one, two, or three Type A free agents.
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Overall, a lot of things will be floated. One of them will be a potential deal with SF. They need young offense, we need starting pitching, and a Matt Cain for Robby Cano deal has been on the rumor wire for a long time now. We'll kick the tires on Manny and on Pat Burrell. We'll make a good run at Tex. We will destroy the competition for CC, and the only way he isnt in pinstripes is if he doesnt want to come here. We'll kick the tires on Dunn, although I think we pass ultimately. Giambi will be in the fracas, and he will be our fallback option should Tex leave. Burnett is a wild card and should be considered mostly because he has stayed healthy for consecutive yrs and finally showed he can avoid the free pass.

But all in all, I think our team will get better. Adding Wang and a healthy Joba will help. Having Posada behind the dish while moving Molina to backup will help a ton. Getting Cano off to a normal start should have him in the .300 range for 09. A lot of bad things need to happen again to keep this team from being very competitive next yr
According to Brian Sabean, Matt Cain is untouchable. His words. Read transcript here. You're overly optimistic. The Yankees are on a downward trend. I say the new drop off is 32 years old. Jeter, Abreu, Giambi, Posada, Mariano, Arod, Damon, Matsui are all on the wrong side. Do I expect a drop off? More like injuries. If they tread water offensively, I'd be ecstatic. Overall, what you'll get is what you got this year, maybe a slight overall offensive decrease. Can't beat Father Time.
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