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RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 12:13 PM
Boston (25-22) at N.Y. Yankees (27-21), 1:20 pm EDT

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BRONX, New York (Ticker) -- Matt Clement (http://si.com/baseball/mlb/players/6099/index.html) tries to slow down the New York Yankees (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/yankees/index.html) when he takes the mound for the Boston Red Sox (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/red_sox/index.html) on Saturday.

With Curt Schilling (http://si.com/baseball/mlb/players/4267/index.html) out of action with a bone bruise in his right ankle, Clement (5-0, 3.34 ERA) has inherited the top spot in Boston's rotation. He yielded two runs and four hits in a complete-game victory over the Atlanta Braves (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/braves/index.html) on Sunday.

The Yankees' Carl Pavano (http://si.com/baseball/mlb/players/5945/index.html) (4-3, 3.69) has won his last four decisions after an 0-2 start. He surrendered three runs and eight hits in seven innings against the New York Mets (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/mets/index.html) on Sunday.

Gary Sheffield (http://si.com/baseball/mlb/players/4268/index.html) hit a three-run homer and Robinson Cano (http://si.com/baseball/mlb/players/7497/index.html) added a two-run shot in a five-run sixth inning to lead New York to a 6-3 victory over Boston on Friday.

Since their 11-19 start, the Yankees have won 16 of 18 - including five straight - and are 3 1/2 games behind the Baltimore Orioles (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/orioles/index.html) for first place in the American League East.

Despite having dropped its last four contests, Boston will try to end New York's nine-game home winning streak.

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 12:27 PM
J. Damon (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5484/) CF
E. Renteria (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5602/) SS
D. Ortiz (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5909/) DH
M. Ramirez (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5132/) LF
T. Nixon (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5731/) RF
J. Varitek (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5921/) C
J. Olerud (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/4403/) 1B
B. Mueller (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5587/) 3B
M. Bellhorn (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5831/) 2B

D. Jeter (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5406/) SS
T. Womack (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5158/) LF
G. Sheffield (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/4268/) RF
H. Matsui (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/7042/) CF
A. Rodriguez (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5275/) 3B
T. Martinez (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/4545/) 1B
J. Giambi (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/5386/) DH
J. Flaherty (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/4820/) C
R. Cano (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/players/7497/) 2B

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 12:29 PM
Damon!


1-0 Bosox!!!!!!!!!!

yeszir
05-28-2005, 12:30 PM
Ugh, I just woke up. All games should be played at 7:05 EST. That should be a law.

yeszir
05-28-2005, 12:49 PM
Olerud hits in his first sox AB.

yeszir
05-28-2005, 12:54 PM
Damon is an absolute beast.

Sox fan in Tex
05-28-2005, 12:54 PM
FUCK, and I can't see the game. This blows.

Sox fan in Tex
05-28-2005, 12:55 PM
2-0 Sox

yeszir
05-28-2005, 12:55 PM
And Renteria! 3-0. Rent is 10 of his last 17 ABs.

Sox fan in Tex
05-28-2005, 12:56 PM
How bad are the announcers, yeszir?

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 12:56 PM
FUCK, and I can't see the game. This blows.
guess we were the bad luck. :(

yeszir
05-28-2005, 12:58 PM
How bad are the announcers, yeszir?
What do you mean. I'm listening to it on the radio. Oh, its on FOX isnt it. I guess I'll stick with the radio.

Sox fan in Tex
05-28-2005, 12:59 PM
Yep, what sucks even more is I don't even have the option to watch baseball right now. I have some home and garden crap on FOX and baseball won't start 'til 3 and I could care less about the Rangers. RedSoxRooter, I did have a little interest in watching the Cubs, are they on FOX as well, because I can't get them on MLB Extra Innings.

Sox fan in Tex
05-28-2005, 01:00 PM
Sox leave 2 stranded as Ortiz strikes out.

yeszir
05-28-2005, 01:05 PM
Dammit I hate A-Rod. Hate Hate Hate.

Sox fan in Tex
05-28-2005, 01:18 PM
Men on 1st and 2nd...C'mon Olerud!

Sox fan in Tex
05-28-2005, 01:22 PM
This is exactly what we need...to work up Pavano's pitch count. Torre said he didn't want to have to use Gordon or Rivera today, so just keep plugging away Boston batters.

schillingouttheks
05-28-2005, 01:24 PM
Olerud's looking good so far....even though he just grounded out, he worked Pavano well. His first hit was cool too. Clement is a beast, all is well right now!

Oh! And down goes Cano! Hehe.

schillingouttheks
05-28-2005, 01:25 PM
I also forgot to see Manny and Ortizs' ABs. How they doin so far?

And Jeter gets hit. Most likely an accident...Why would he want to put someone on right now? He's not a headhunter either...

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 01:26 PM
and Jeter goes down :D

schillingouttheks
05-28-2005, 01:28 PM
Yeah, right below the armpit on his back. That looked like it hurt...bad.

Hey...Womack is pretty fast.

schillingouttheks
05-28-2005, 01:33 PM
And Clement fans Matsui. <3 Clement.

yeszir
05-28-2005, 01:44 PM
Manny is soooooooooooooooooooooo good.

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 01:51 PM
sounds like the bats showed up today. I miss Joe and Jerry on the radio. They are so much better than the Fox announcers.


5-0

Sizzlin22
05-28-2005, 01:57 PM
I'm stuck in New York it's better than listening to Mike Kay but they are so friggin dumb lookin good so far though.

yeszir
05-28-2005, 01:59 PM
Ouch, Clement is shooting himself in the foot with that wild pitch and then that dropped double play ball.

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 02:07 PM
I guess Olerud is looking good. They say he could be 3-3 today but hit the pitcher.

yeszir
05-28-2005, 02:13 PM
Welcome back Renteria. Thank you. :dance:

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 02:16 PM
I kept the faith. Go back and look - not a bad word about Rent. You bastards.

Sizzlin22
05-28-2005, 02:16 PM
Welcome back Renteria. Thank you. :dance:
Welcome back? he's just arrived ladies and gentleman welcome Edgar Renteria.

yeszir
05-28-2005, 02:20 PM
OH YES NIXON. 12-0. This is this year's Indians game. I love it.

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 02:21 PM
and I missed it all. :(

radio is almost as fun.

YANKEESRULE
05-28-2005, 02:27 PM
and I missed it all. :(

radio is almost as fun.

congrats on the victory today. well its not over, but the way clement is pitching it looks like it. just better hope Wells brings is A-game tommorow.

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 02:28 PM
Wells has an "A" game??? :lol:

BigPapiEnFuego
05-28-2005, 02:30 PM
Whatever it is, thats not wells grade is health class.

element1151
05-28-2005, 02:34 PM
Wooooo Hoooooooooo 12-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Out of a bases loaded jam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Life is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 02:55 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: 14-0

element1151
05-28-2005, 03:02 PM
Wow! Save some runs for Sunday!

Sizzlin22
05-28-2005, 03:02 PM
This is just getitng stupid.

Soxfan#1
05-28-2005, 03:17 PM
All you assholes have been ragging on renteria. I thank millar for stepping up. Thats what started all of this.

Sizzlin22
05-28-2005, 03:20 PM
Yeah because Millar speaking up is what suddenly made him start hitting. Anyways I just heard the greatest quote that's ever come out of Bucks mouth "He has his average UP to .231" referring to Giambi this is jsut too fun to watch.

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 03:30 PM
17-1. :blink:

Lets see.... Clement 6-0, 3.06 era or Pavano 4-4, 4.16 era. Hmmmmm.

I think the Sox got the better deal.

element1151
05-28-2005, 03:37 PM
Anyone think there are any Yankees fans left in the stadium?

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 03:38 PM
No. According to Joe and Jerry, the Sox have already broken the record for most Sox runs scored against the Yanks. One hit more and they break that record too. Wow.

yeszir
05-28-2005, 03:41 PM
Anyone think there are any Yankees fans left in the stadium?
Yes. They cheer wildly when their team scores one run so they're only down by 12.

Soxfan#1
05-28-2005, 03:46 PM
If we didn't give up that shutout it would be be the biggest one over the yanks in sox history. Somebodys got to get a pic of that scoreboard at the end of the game.

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 03:50 PM
17-1. FINAL. :clap:

yankthis
05-28-2005, 03:51 PM
Since the subject of "A Games" comes up, where's is Randy Johnson's? He knows he got a free lunch yesterday.

CalvnHobs6
05-28-2005, 03:52 PM
I saw a total of one yankee fan in the stadium chanting "Let's go Bernie" in the bottom of the ninth. Clement looked sooo good today, and the hitting was incredible.

mosox
05-28-2005, 03:57 PM
All is right with the world.

Sox fan in Tex
05-28-2005, 04:25 PM
Wow, and me and RedSoxRooter couldn't see it. That sucks. In my lifetime, I may only see the Sox blow out the Yanks like that a couple more times at the Stadium. Way to go Sox!

P.S. 17-1?!?! BWAHAHAHA!

soxie thefangirl
05-28-2005, 04:26 PM
That was amazing.

YanksHater213
05-28-2005, 04:27 PM
Talk about a break out game... fucking owned. I didnt get to watch the game because I was out seeing the longest yard, but it sounds pretty much like we kicked the shit out of them.

stocker323
05-28-2005, 04:32 PM
I didn't see it either, but I turned on the radio just in time to hear the post game and I literally couldn't stop laughing the whole ride home.

Sox fan in Tex
05-28-2005, 04:35 PM
Wait...so those who actually WATCHED the game, how good did we look? It must have been amazing.

soxie thefangirl
05-28-2005, 05:08 PM
I watched. We looked beyond amazing. Everyone was hitting. Everyone seemed into the game, having a good time, adrenaline-filled. It was just amazing. Clement looked outta control a few times, walking guys, but otherwise he looked in control and outstanding. It was such a great game to watch.

DOrtiz4prez
05-28-2005, 09:01 PM
I had a flippin baseball game when it was on. But one of the guys watching had a radio turned up really loud so we could hear everything.

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 09:13 PM
nice

schillingouttheks
05-28-2005, 09:30 PM
RSR--you're a tank. And the game was amazing.

In referring to Bernie Williams not getting credit for stealing a base (no effort to throw him out by Tek), Joe Buck comments, "And Derek Jeter will not get credit for a stolen base. Err, Bernie Williams rather."

I hate Fox. Looking forward to Don and Jerry tomorrow. Wells needs to lay off the alcohol tonight and get a good night's sleep and rest if he wants to be in it tomorrow.

Edgar is heating up. Damon is the Messiah. Manny is becoming God again. Papi is getting there. Olerud looks great!!!! (He beat up 2 pitchers today, line drives back to two different pitchers, forget who though.) Bellhorn....still Blowhorn. Nixon, still hot as hell. Quantrill---his ERA should lower sometime in August (gave up a grand slam, a 3-R HR, as well as more runs on different hits throughout his outing today).

Hopefully being a Red Sox fan will return to being great.

element1151
05-28-2005, 09:45 PM
I watched. Great game!

Hey RSR, do you have the link to that pic?

soxie thefangirl
05-28-2005, 09:51 PM
nice

Bellhorn! and oh the score, too. :D

No Don and Remy tomorrow. ESPN covers it. Remy was none too pleased about it on Friday.

RedSoxRooter
05-28-2005, 09:55 PM
I watched. Great game!

Hey RSR, do you have the link to that pic?Sure I do! http://nytimes.com/2005/05/29/sports/baseball/29yankees.html


And here's an article from the same rag.

Clement Makes Pavano's Woes Difficult to Ignore

By MURRAY CHASS
THE Evil Empire bombed last October, and it's beginning to look as if it might have bombed last December, too.

The Red Sox humiliated the Yankees in the American League Championship Series and went on to win the World Series, too. They left themselves less time to make off-season plans for this season, but based on the first two months of the season, the Red Sox appear to have made smarter plans.

Working on a budget about two-thirds the size of the Yankees' "budget," Larry Lucchino and Theo Epstein just might have outmaneuvered George Steinbrenner and Brian Cashman. If that turns out to be so, it will be Cashman, not Steinbrenner, who pays the price. Steinbrenner is already paying the price ($200 million), and he is not spending that amount of money with the idea of not winning.

The Red Sox battered the Yankees, 17-1, with a 27-hit barrage yesterday, and the performances of the starting pitchers epitomized the two-month results of the teams' winter plans. At this juncture, it appears that the Red Sox' brain trust outperformed the Yankees' brain trust. Or maybe it was just dumb luck.

Last winter, the Yankees identified starting pitching as the reason for their downfall last season. Adding capable starting pitchers, at whatever cost, was their No. 1 priority. They believed they had accomplished their mission when they signed Carl Pavano and Jaret Wright as free agents and acquired Randy Johnson in a trade.

The Red Sox also added three pitchers, all as free agents: David Wells, Matt Clement and Wade Miller. Wells has been injured and a disappointment, and Miller hasn't pitched enough since coming off the disabled list to indicate how valuable he will be to the Red Sox.

But Clement has pitched well enough to allow the Red Sox to feel they plucked the best starter out of the market. Clement, pitching six shutout innings, raised his record to 6-0 and lowered his earned run average to 3.06. Carl Pavano, the first pitcher the Red Sox shelled yesterday, gave up 5 runs and 11 hits in three and two-thirds innings, his record dropping to 4-3, his E.R.A. rising to 4.18.

The interesting aspect of their matchup was that Pavano was the free-agent pitcher the Yankees aimed for last winter while they basically ignored Clement.

"During the winter meetings," Barry Axelrod, Clement's agent, said yesterday, "Brian chatted with me several times and said, 'I may want to talk to you.' That's when they were doing their dance with Pavano, waiting to see how things played out with him."

The Red Sox also pursued Pavano, a Connecticut kid who grew up between the two hotbeds of American League East baseball. Had Pavano chosen the Red Sox, they most likely would not have also tried to sign Clement. Their budget was not limitless.

But Pavano opted to sign with the Yankees, leaving the Red Sox in the market for Clement, a 30-year-old right-hander whose won-lost record never matched his potential. In fact, his victory yesterday evened his career record at 75 victories and 75 defeats after he went 9-13 last season.

"It's probably my fault," Clement said of his career record before this season. "Last year was such a strange year. Things didn't go as well as they should have. I threw the ball last year as well as I have my whole life. The record didn't show it. You look at yourself in the mirror. Was it my fault, or something else? Could I have controlled it better? I could've controlled it better. I take responsibility for what my record was in the past."

As for the Yankees' lack of interest, he said: "I had enough interest. They had a plan that they wanted to do. They went out and got their guy early."

But Clement was talking about Johnson, not Pavano.

"I know that Randy Johnson was their No. 1 priority, which would have been mine, too," Clement said. "The Yankees did what they did. They did what they or their scouts or whoever felt would fit in here best. That's fine that they didn't call."

Eleven starts into the season, the Red Sox agree. They have an 8-3 record in games Clement has started, including their 4-3 loss to the Yankees in the second game of the season. Pavano was the Yankees' starter that day.

"The first time I was here, it was a blur," Clement said. "I had never been here before. You come in and you're getting used to your surroundings. I was probably a little overexcited that first game."

The Yankees' record in Pavano's starts is 6-5. Pavano has been as inconsistent as the record.

"I don't think his fastball is where he needs and likes it to be," said John Flaherty, who caught Pavano yesterday. "And when it's not, your location better be pretty good to get by. He's a big guy for us, and we're looking forward to his next start."

So was Pavano, though first he was looking forward to today.

"When you wake up in the morning, how you feel about yourself is how you go on," the dejected Pavano said. How did he expect to feel when he awoke today? "Tomorrow's a new day, and I'm looking forward to that day because this was very disappointing for me."

soxie thefangirl
05-28-2005, 10:23 PM
Thanks for the link!

mosox
05-28-2005, 10:48 PM
I'm not a fan of Chass, although this is different from the usual spew of yankee apologist/sox hater trash he likes to write.

One post script to the game. How fitting it was for Hollywood yank fans Adam Sandler and Chris Rock to throw out the first pitch in a humiliating NY loss. Serves them right for re-making a movie that is perfect in it's original version and never should have been remade.

DOrtiz4prez
05-29-2005, 09:17 AM
I'm not a fan of Chass, although this is different from the usual spew of yankee apologist/sox hater trash he likes to write.

One post script to the game. How fitting it was for Hollywood yank fans Adam Sandler and Chris Rock to throw out the first pitch in a humiliating NY loss. Serves them right for re-making a movie that is perfect in it's original version and never should have been remade.

I saw that movie and it was hilarious.