PEDitte Admits to Using HGH

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Originally Posted by schillingouttheks

Except over half of those players weren't with the Orioles during the Yankees' championships. That's the time we're referring to, no?

I would say that the 'steroids era' would go from around 1998 up until 2004 or 2005, when they first started testing more seriously. Wouldn't you agree Kilo? I just use home run totals from a guy like Sosa as a guideline.

[26 to 6]

Agreed.

[schillingouttheks]

Originally Posted by 26 Reasons to Hate Us

I would say that the 'steroids era' would go up until 2004 or 2005, when they first started testing more seriously.

Nevermind, my mistake. He was referring to the era; I thought he was initially just referring to the 3-year span of Yanks' championships.

[a700hitter]

I think it stopped when players were getting hauled in to testify before a grand jury. That happened afte 2003. In 2004, there were a bunch of guys who went cold turkey. Giambi claimed that he had given up Big Macs. Hey, maybe he was referring to his mentor Mark MGwire. He used to be called Big Mac.

[rician blast]

Originally Posted by 26 Reasons to Hate Us

I would say that the 'steroids era' would go from around 1998 up until 2004 or 2005, when they first started testing more seriously.

Depends on what you want to call the steroids era.

If the era means when use of PEDs was rampant? I'd say that goes from about 1995 to now.

If the era refers to anytime that PEDs were being used by at least a few players? My guess is early 80's.

BTW, IMO we're still in the PED era...guys will just be more selective in whom they do business with and how they cover their tracks...and they won't be stupid enough to write checks.

[YAZMAN]

Originally Posted by 26 Reasons to Hate Us

I would say that the 'steroids era' would go from around 1998 up until 2004 or 2005, when they first started testing more seriously. Wouldn't you agree Kilo? I just use home run totals from a guy like Sosa as a guideline.

Try the 1980's. I believe this poster was from 1988:



They were juicing in Oakland, definately. I played college baseball from 1985-1988, and played both with and against guys that I had first hand knowledge were training with steroids. If college players were "smart" enough to be using them for a competitive advantage, you can bet your butt the pros were both aware of them and using.

I still can't believe Bagwell's name has never come up.

[a700hitter]

Originally Posted by YAZMAN

Try the 1980's. I believe this poster was from 1988:



They were juicing in Oakland, definately. I played college baseball from 1985-1988, and played both with and against guys that I had first hand knowledge were training with steroids. If college players were "smart" enough to be using them for a competitive advantage, you can bet your butt the pros were both aware of them and using.

I still can't believe Bagwell's name has never come up.

It's come up, but not in any formal report. It really doesn't matter who got named in t he report, except to those individuals who were named. They got burned, but too damn bad. The use of the stuff was rampant during those years. It was ridiculous when you started seeing middle infielders like Boone and Tejada growing 20 inch necks and hitting one-handed Home Runs to the opposite field. The whole era was dirty.

[rician blast]

Originally Posted by YAZMAN

Try the 1980's. I believe this poster was from 1988:



They were juicing in Oakland, definately. I played college baseball from 1985-1988, and played both with and against guys that I had first hand knowledge were training with steroids. If college players were "smart" enough to be using them for a competitive advantage, you can bet your butt the pros were both aware of them and using.

I still can't believe Bagwell's name has never come up.

Agree Yaz...I posted elsewhere about my experience working in a gym in the mid 80's where HS athletes, college athletes, and regular Joes were constantly approaching us for juice. The shit has been in use a long, long time.

[26 to 6]

Originally Posted by YAZMAN

I still can't believe Bagwell's name has never come up.

Or even Biggio's. I've stated in the past on a few occasions that I have knowledge that Biggio has at least tried steroids (don't know how frequent his use was) with Caminitti.

[schillingouttheks]

Originally Posted by 26 to 6

Or even Biggio's. I've stated in the past on a few occasions that I have knowledge that Biggio has at least tried steroids (don't know how frequent his use was) with Caminitti.

Is this knowledge only in your head or up your ass also?

Hahahahhaa, I'm just cracking a joke on how you worded your post.

Seriously though, what's your source on that? I'm curious. Not that I'm suggesting he didn't, because I've always just suspected everyone anyway.

[Mr Crunchy]

what about all world jeff bagwell?
another of a long line of studs who quickly faded after the 2003 screening began?

as far as petite goes
i respect his admission but find his statement somewhat insulting to my intelligence
""if i let people down"
if i
if i
what the fuck andy...you came forward with a good story,one that is easy to swallow but instead of being very humble you act as if it was like borrowing the neighbors lawn mower without asking...IF YOU?

i respect the rest of his mission
andy petite was one of the yanks i really respected and considered a money guy
a class guy..he started losing my good will when he began following clemens like a lap dog
hes the kind of old school yank who should retire in stripes and play for no one else

hes outta the fire somewhat now
his mentor however refuses to come down to earth and take his lumps

[26 to 6]

I'm really not at liberty to get into specifics, but I will tell you that it's firsthand knowledge from a former Astros teammate I know who on occasion did it with Biggio and Cammy. Never mentioned anything about Bagwell though, not to say he didnt do it.

Thats the most i've ever volunteered on the subject, so be gracious you chowderheads!

[rician blast]

Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

as far as petite goes
i respect his admission but find his statement somewhat insulting to my intelligence
""if i let people down"
if i
if i
what the fuck andy...you came forward with a good story,one that is easy to swallow but instead of being very humble you act as if it was like borrowing the neighbors lawn mower without asking...IF YOU?

My issue with his "admission" includes not only the "if I" statement, but also the notion that he did it to get back and help the team ("I felt an obligation to get back to my team as soon as possible. For this reason, and only this reason....). Bullshit.

[TheKilo]

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