Chamberlain to Start Season in 'Pen?

[Mr Crunchy]

the gnats got to joba last year when it mattered
that was great tv,it was better than the gross out show where the guy would drink 500 y ear old egg nog or eat out of a shitty diaper but anyways,
hes probably seeing them every time he looks at a baseball these days
ahhh the bugs....ahhhhhhhhhhhh i cant see ....please help me....

hopefully he goes into the pen and girardi has him burnt out by august.
they need their starters to show up this year or this kid will be at 100ip before the allstar break....pette and wang are decent,if not at least consistant,hughes and kennedy are very questionable yet promising.. they''ll have to shine for the yanks to have a pop,mussina is a broken man,he should go teach aloof and arrogance 101 somewhere where pretentious deep thinkers congregate,maybe over at leslie college or perhaps amherst is a good fit..
he cant pitch anymore
the yanks are 1 stud arm away from being as good as we are on paper but they do have alex rodriguez,the man who will bring your rising star back to earth every october it seems.

[jacksonianmarch]

Crunch. Despite reports from outside news organizations, the yankees have no intentions of having Joba in the pen. They have not waivered from having Joba start. The question is, where will he start.

The most recent news is that Cashman and Newman both agreed that all 3 kids will have innings caps.

Joba last yr hit 135IP. He will most likely be capped around 170IP

Hughes hit 150 in 2006, but was short due to injury last yr. He will most likely be capped at 170IP as well.

Kennedy threw 165 last yr and is on pace for 200IP this yr.

The other news is that, at least out of the gate, Mussina will start the yr as the #5. And while that is going on, Joba might be the odd man out in Scranton. Due to the fact that the yankees can control his innings in AAA, the season starts 3 weeks later, and eventually Moose will need replacing, this idea works.

[Mr Crunchy]

i understand
my concerns for my yank friends will be when theyre 8 out on 6-1 with chamberlain in columbus being brought up to go every 5th day because phil hughes isnt all that and kennedy is a cross between kei igawa and carl pavano

[26 to 6]

If one of the 3 young guys were to have to start the season in Scranton, I really think it should be Kennedy. Joba was too good, and became too much of a fan favorite last year to start him in AAA this year.

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

i understand
my concerns for my yank friends will be when theyre 8 out on 6-1 with chamberlain in columbus being brought up to go every 5th day because phil hughes isnt all that and kennedy is a cross between kei igawa and carl pavano

We shall see. Hughes is the goods and he showed it to end the yr. We'll see who shows up. And I totally think you are selling Kennedy short. We will see.

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by 26 to 6

If one of the 3 young guys were to have to start the season in Scranton, I really think it should be Kennedy. Joba was too good, and became too much of a fan favorite last year to start him in AAA this year.

Kennedy is the last of the 3 I'd start in the minors solely because his innings cap will be set at 200 this yr. He can theoretically throw a full MLB season while both Hughes and Joba will need their innings garnished.

[26 to 6]

How come Kennedy's is higher compared to Hughes and Joba? I hope he's ready and can be productive in the bigs..

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Originally Posted by 26 to 6

How come Kennedy's is higher compared to Hughes and Joba? I hope he's ready and can be productive in the bigs..

I'm guessing Kennedy's cap is higher because he's hasn't been set back by injuries like Joba and Hughes have. Hughes would probably be capped at 200 this year if he didn't pull his hammy, because I believe his cap last year was ~175. Joba had tendonitis in college in '06 that limited him to 89.1 innings, which is why he only pitched a total of 112.1 innings last year.

[26 to 6]

Right. The Yankees have always been ultra-conservative with Hughes's innings coming up, so I figured the same would be true this year, didn't even take into account his injuries though. I don't know what it is, but I just have a pessimistic feeling about Kennedy. That's why I tend to be down on the idea of him starting the season out in the bigs, but this is a big factor, especially considering our nice rich bullpen featuring the likes of Kyle Farnsworth and LaTroy Hawkins!

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by 26 Reasons to Hate Us

I'm guessing Kennedy's cap is higher because he's hasn't been set back by injuries like Joba and Hughes have. Hughes would probably be capped at 200 this year if he didn't pull his hammy, because I believe his cap last year was ~175. Joba had tendonitis in college in '06 that limited him to 89.1 innings, which is why he only pitched a total of 112.1 innings last year.

It is solely based upon their prior yr's workload and typically you dont want to increase that by more than 50 in one season, ideally you would like to keep it at 30. Joba threw 135 IP last yr. Hughes only threw 110, but he threw 150 the yr before and his decrease was due to a non-arm ailment. So he should be on track for what he was supposed to throw last yr (about 170 or a 20IP increase from his 06 workload). Kennedy threw 165 IP last yr and going by the formula, he should be on pace for 200IP.

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

It is solely based upon their prior yr's workload and typically you dont want to increase that by more than 50 in one season, ideally you would like to keep it at 30. Joba threw 135 IP last yr. Hughes only threw 110, but he threw 150 the yr before and his decrease was due to a non-arm ailment. So he should be on track for what he was supposed to throw last yr (about 170 or a 20IP increase from his 06 workload). Kennedy threw 165 IP last yr and going by the formula, he should be on pace for 200IP.

Where do you see Joba throwing 135 innings last year? By my count he had 24 IP in the majors and 88.1 in the minors. Are you including winter league or something?

[jacksonianmarch]

you are correct. My mistake. So the fact that he threw essentially 115IP including playoffs has him set for 150, not 170. Another reason why he should start the yr in AAA.

[26 to 6]

I see your point, but don't you think we could use him in at the Major League leve;? And whether he's in Scranton or the Bronx, he's still gonna be pitching innings. So I don't understand the reasoning.

[Gom]

Originally Posted by Soxfan#1

As a Sox fan, I hope they throw him in the rotation in a sink or swim situation. Sure the guy is intimidating and a great pitcher, but how long can he stay intimidating because it's a huge part of his pitching strategy and he's going to have to go around 6-8 innings a night.

But this would be best for them in my opinion. The only negative is converting his arm to pitch more innings a night.

The truth of the matter is that the trio of Hughes, Kennedy, and Chamberlain could be the next Smoltz, Glavine, and Maddux.

Now to hope these pitchers turn into them is a stretch. However, that is the hopes the Yankees have for them. Hughes 1.28 whip is the highest of the three.

Now, do I expect them to each win 20 games? Not any time soon, if ever. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Wang or Pettitte was our worst starting pitcher next year. They could pan out to be the Braves trio.

They could also turn out to be Generation K from the Mets. Isringhausen, Pusipher, and Wilson. We know how they turned out.

I'm just glad we got rid of Torre. This would have been Prior and Wood all over again.

[jacksonianmarch]

It certainly is intriguing. I just hope they are able to keep the innings down somewhat. If Chamberlain doubles his innings this yr, we might as well book the OR.