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Old 04-21-2008, 01:24 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Default Re: Yankee offense: worst start in 10 yrs

It's just funny that so many Yankee fans thought their rotation was going to be fine. Ours isn't exactly the best either, but everyone at least had some concerns. For whatever reason, you guys were comforted by all of the "ifs" surrounding your rotation, assuming that they would all come through. Now that the shit has hit the fan, we can't help but sit back and enjoy watching you all pine for Igawa to replace Kennedy with smirks on our faces, wanting to tell you that we told you so.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:34 PM   #107 (permalink)
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he had 3 starts last yr. You cannot tell me that you have pitch fx from the minors.
I didn't say that I have Pitch f/x from the minors. I don't need it--I'm referring to the 275 pitches he threw in MLB. "Three games" sounds small, but 275 pitches is a reasonable sample, particularly if the performance is suspect: and when an ERA goes down from both AA and AAA in MLB, especially from a pitcher who's not necessarily forecast to excel in MLB by scouts, many might consider the performance suspect.

Look at the actual results from last season. Take his first game, the one that caught my attention. There were four strikes, all in the bottom inch of the zone, called balls: pitches 1, 30, 32, and 54. There were 13 balls called strikes: pitches 10, 16, 21, 27, 45, 65, 67, 71, 77, 85, 92, 95, and 96. Even if one expands the strike zone from the regulation zone by four inches to account for umpires giving pitchers "the black," there were still nine outside pitches that were called strikes, pitches that missed by as much as about half a foot. Kerwin Danley didn't extend that same courtesy to the Rays' pitchers...it was a clear case of favoring Kennedy.

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http://gd2.mlb.com/components/game/m...ers/453178.xml
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:56 PM   #108 (permalink)
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i remember last year igawa made his debut either against boston or in the big show against someone else
our man jackson was dictating how igawa had a 4 pitch selection of weapons and he was going to pitch 200 innings and what balance he had etc.....
by the 3rd inning we get
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the fact is neither of these guys is going to be dependable this year although igawa may give you more shitty innings
Baltimore on April 7th. I was at that game, where A-Rod eventually hit the walkoff grand slam in the bottom of the 9th. He looked HORRIBLE
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It's just funny that so many Yankee fans thought their rotation was going to be fine. Ours isn't exactly the best either, but everyone at least had some concerns. For whatever reason, you guys were comforted by all of the "ifs" surrounding your rotation, assuming that they would all come through. Now that the shit has hit the fan, we can't help but sit back and enjoy watching you all pine for Igawa to replace Kennedy with smirks on our faces, wanting to tell you that we told you so.
I'll admit, I was comfortable going into the season with Hughes. Kennedy is where my concerns were, and to a much lesser degree, Mussina. But you're right, nobody saw this.
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Old 04-21-2008, 07:24 PM   #110 (permalink)
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I'll admit, I was comfortable going into the season with Hughes. Kennedy is where my concerns were, and to a much lesser degree, Mussina. But you're right, nobody saw this.
Really? No one saw the potential for young pitchers to struggle their first significant time through the league?

And for all the shit Sox fans have given Lester and Buchholz, they've still done far better than Hughes and Kennedy.
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