Joba Back to the 'Pen? - Talksox

BoSox21 · 08-15-2008, 03:00 PM

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According to the New York Post, the Yankees "have discussed" returning Joba Chamberlain (shoulder) to the bullpen once he comes off the disabled list.

Chamberlain is slated to begin a throwing program Friday and the newspaper suggests that a move back to relief work would be done with the intention of lessening the stress on his injured shoulder. Chamberlain is eligible to come off the shelf Wednesday, but there's no indication that he'll be ready then.

Rotoworld

Can't be good to putting the kid back and forth between the rotation and the bullpen

BoSox21 · 08-28-2008, 05:13 PM

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Joba Chamberlain (shoulder) threw a 45-pitch bullpen session Thursday and said afterward that he expects to return as a reliever.

Chamberlain is aiming to come off the disabled list next week, but before that can happen he'll throw a simulated game Saturday. Asked if he expects to resume starting, Chamberlain said: "I wouldn’t think so, just the way it has been. But who knows?" General manager Brian Cashman declined to address Chamberlain's role, saying only that he's "getting very close" to returning.

seriously, why not just shut him down for the year?

yankees228 · 08-28-2008, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BoSox21

seriously, why not just shut him down for the year?

They wouldn't be doing this if there was any possible risk for the injury to flare up again.

For a team that has recently been making moves for the future, they would not risk the future for a month.

TheKilo · 09-02-2008, 01:59 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...of_season.html

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DETROIT - Joba Chamberlain is headed back to the bullpen.

The man Hank Steinbrenner recently called "the most dominant starting pitcher in baseball" will work the final month as a reliever after being activated from the disabled list before Tuesday's game.

"You have the chance to help the team win every day, whether it's giving them an inning or two or a hitter here or there," Chamberlain said. "You just have to get in there and do as much as you can, not try to do too much."

The Yankees haven't changed their mind - yet - about using Chamberlain as a starting pitcher going forward, but with less than four weeks remaining in the season, there wasn't enough time to build his pitch count up as a starter.

"In this situation, he can give us more valuable innings as a bullpen guy," Joe Girardi said. "This way, we can use him a lot more regularly."

Girardi and Brian Cashman said Chamberlain's future is in the rotation - though it seems that could change before spring training.

Please continue to switch his roles.

BoSox21 · 09-02-2008, 02:40 PM

the uncertainty the Yankees keep displaying in how to deal with this kid would make me uneasy if I were a Yankees fan

jacksonianmarch · 09-02-2008, 04:08 PM

Trying to stir the pot again arent you bosox. LOL. This has more to do with Joba's innings than it does with his role. If you think about it, he's been kept from throwing in a game for a month. Most pitchers out a month need to start a rehab assignment. Start around 2-3IP, work up by an inning at a time and make their way back to the bigs in about 4 weeks or so as a starter. In 4 weeks, the season is over. So they can maximize his inning by using him 2 innings at a time every 3rd day. You can bet that they will have him in their rotation plans for next season as well and next yr they will do it right.

I had advocated for awhile that Joba move to the rotation. But you need to do it the right way. Look how Leyland did it with Verlander. Well, Justin's innings were pretty high that yr, but in the last 2 months, he started skipping him every 3rd start. This kept his innings from being Mark Prior high and has kept the kid injury free since. This is what we should do with Joba. Have him go 6IP a stint and start skipping him every 3rd or 4th start after the AS break.

BoSox21 · 09-02-2008, 04:20 PM

I still think his right arm will make it to home plate before his fastball one day

26 to 6 · 09-02-2008, 05:31 PM

That arm would have to be movin' pretty fast.

BoSox21 · 09-02-2008, 05:43 PM

nah, he'll be throwing as hard as Jamie Moyer when he comes back

a700hitter · 09-02-2008, 05:55 PM

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nah, he'll be throwing as hard as Jamie Moyer when he comes back

I disagree. I think that Joba will be throwing as hard as he did before the injury, but the ball will get to Home Plate only as fast as a Jamie Moyer pitch.

26 to 6 · 09-02-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BoSox21

nah, he'll be throwing as hard as Jamie Moyer when he comes back

Yeah, you wish.

BudLight · 09-02-2008, 08:01 PM

There's no sense in piling up innings as a starter, the season is done, have him throw out of the bullpen and he can work on extending his pitching over the winter to prepare him to be a starter next year. Smart move on the Yankees part. Let's not forget Masterson's situation when criticizing the Yankees on how they have handled Chamberlain this year.

26 to 6 · 09-02-2008, 08:24 PM

Exactly. There's no indecisiveness going on here with the Yankees as to which role they think Joba is best suited for. Joba is going to be a starter, case closed. But at this point in the season, with all things considered regarding the current circumstances surrounding the Yankees it's best Joba just throw in relief for the rest of the month. Right now, that's whats best for him and the team. And if the Yankees are going to somehow miraculously resuscitate their postseason hopes (which is doubtful..I think the Yankees are dead), they're better suited to do that with Joba in the pen than in the rotation. He can impact more games, while limiting the strain that he would induce as a starter as he builds himself back up. You'll see him at the top of the rotation when 2009 rolls around in the new Stadium.

TheKilo · 09-03-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BudLight

There's no sense in piling up innings as a starter, the season is done, have him throw out of the bullpen and he can work on extending his pitching over the winter to prepare him to be a starter next year. Smart move on the Yankees part. Let's not forget Masterson's situation when criticizing the Yankees on how they have handled Chamberlain this year.

Masterson didn't start the year as a reliever, then move to a starter, then move to a reliever.

ARod2212 · 09-03-2008, 01:00 AM

Chamberlain wouldn't pitch again as a starter this year regardless. So we can get some high leverage innings out of him during a last ditch effort, or not have him at all.

Hmm, tough choice.

There's no indecisiveness in the organization. Chamberlain is a starter. If they were 10 games up right now, they'd be bringing him along to start Game 1 of the playoffs. As it is, they want him to get some work before the season ends.