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01-09-2009, 04:13 AM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
I hope if he goes anywhere besides here its w the Dodgers w holy Joe!
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01-09-2009, 05:21 AM
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Join Date: Aug 02 2006
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
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Originally Posted by 26 to 6
How is there no spot for Abreu? I get the money, but in terms of space on the field I don't get it. You said the same thing about Manny. Granted, we have enough outfielders, but most are bench material. If nady is gone and we don't add another outfielder our OF is Damon, Gardner/Melky, and Swisher. Give me Manny, Abreu, or even Nady and we're straight.
As for Pettitte, I'm tired of this already. This should not still be being dragged out. If he's gonna stay get a fucking deal done already, if not then move one. I say we go out and sign Sheets (or Lowe if Cashman so wishes, I would prefer Sheets however) TOMORROW and then see how Pettitte reacts. I bet you he comes crying and willing to accept a reduced offer. If he doesn't, fine we still have a solid rotation. If he does, then we can move Joba to the pen and I think that maximizes our staff potential.
Shit just needs to be resolved already!!!
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Joba is a waste in the pen. The only way he should end up in the pen is if he cant stay healthy as a starter. He showed he can be an ace as a starter. He throws mid 90s as a starter. He has a plus plus slider and a plus curveball. That kind of repertoire is best used for 200IP than 70IP
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01-09-2009, 09:04 AM
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#33 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 21 2005
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
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Originally Posted by SchillingIsTheNatural
Andy Pettitte is a year older than Derek Lowe and both have been inning eaters the past 4 seasons. Derek Lowe just rejected a 3 year 36 million offer and you guys feel Andy Pettitte rejecting 10 million for one season is unwarrented?
Randy Johnson is 45 years old and he just got 8 million. Jamie Moyer is even older and he makes 6.5 million.
How would we feel if Andy Pettitte had been playing for the Dodgers the past 4 seasons and put up Derek Lowe type ERAs because chances are he would have. Meanwhile I guarantee Derek Lowe in NY would have had a ERA above 4. Still think Andy Pettitte isn't worth say....14 million for season? Whats the difference between 10 million and 14 million anyways for the Yankees? They toss out 420+ million for 3 players and can't increase a one year offer for one of there most loyal players by say 6 million....
On that note I hope Pettitte does go to the Dodgers...he would put up great numbers on the West Coast with Joe Torre
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I could see them dealing Nady for prospects to save 5.5M or whatever he makes, upping Andys offer to 12M to get him to sign, and pocketing the rest. It's a win-win.
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01-09-2009, 09:08 AM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch
Joba is a waste in the pen.
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You're not a fan of 7 inning games?
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01-09-2009, 09:12 AM
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Join Date: Dec 21 2005
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
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Originally Posted by BoSox21
You're not a fan of 7 inning games?
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What good is a 7 inning game if you dont have the lead after 7?
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01-09-2009, 09:17 AM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
oh cmon, you dont think Petttitte would still be able to take a lead into the 8th with the offense the Yanks have?
The biggest reason the Sox won in 2007 was Okajima and Papelbon shutting it down in the 8th and 9th, you can never underestimate the back-end of a bullpen
Last edited by BoSox21; 01-09-2009 at 09:19 AM.
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01-09-2009, 10:33 AM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
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Originally Posted by BoSox21
oh cmon, you dont think Petttitte would still be able to take a lead into the 8th with the offense the Yanks have?
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He couldn't last year 
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01-09-2009, 11:08 AM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
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Originally Posted by 26 Reasons to Hate Us
He couldn't last year 
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The Yanks offense was crap.
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01-09-2009, 12:40 PM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
And besides, I think Joba is the perfect candidate to take over for Mo in the closers role after he departs in 3 years when his contract is up. I'll be the first to admit, I was always an advocate of Joba becoming a starter, even when he was a dominant setup man, but there are other factors to consider at this point. I'm not saying I would have a problem with him being a starter, but i think we're a better TEAM with him setting up Mariano and eventually taking over for him.
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01-09-2009, 01:07 PM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
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Originally Posted by BoSox21
The Yanks offense was crap.
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So was Andy's pitching, especially in the 2nd half. The Yankee offense is improved this year, but who knows if Pettitte can even put up what he did last year..
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01-09-2009, 01:54 PM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
The Yanks should just sign Lowe and put Joba to the pen
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01-09-2009, 10:44 PM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
Lowe sucks. I don't want Lowe.
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01-25-2009, 01:25 AM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
Well the Yankees continue to talk with Pettitte. Seems they won't guarantee even the $10 Mil they had on the table for so long, but through incentives appear willing to make it possible for Andy to make enough money to keep him and his agents happy.
http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/hot_stove/posts/43861
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01-25-2009, 01:28 AM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
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Originally Posted by ARod2212
Lowe sucks. I don't want Lowe.
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Lowe sucks huh...check this out..
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00410200.shtml
I guess he was pretty good that night.. aye sport?
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01-25-2009, 01:37 AM
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Re: Pettitte REJECTS offer!
Lets not forget that that was 5 years ago now, sport.
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