Pettitte REJECTS offer!

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/sp...r=2&ref=sports

Tyler Kepner of the Times is reporting that Andy Pettitte has rejected the $10 million offer that the Yankees have had on the table all off-season. It seemed inevitable that Pettitte would return next year, then there was a shadow of doubt, however it was ion the Yankees part. It's obvious the Hendricks brothers have been trying to drive the offer up for quite some time, but if he really wants to stay with the Yankees this is a bold move. I don't see Ca$h increasing the offer at all. If Andy wants to go elsewhere; Texas, Atlanta, wherever then fine, I say let him go at this point. After all of the support he received from the fans and the organization last year after he was named in the Mitchell Report this disgusts me.

Here's a September quote from Pettitte,

“Obviously anyone else would say, ‘I’ll go wherever I want to,’ because people want to try to get the most money,” Pettitte said before a Yankees-Angels game in Anaheim, Calif. “But, I mean, I’m not going anywhere, you know what I’m saying? The Yankees know me enough, it’s not like I’m going to hold out. I guess if I had spent all my money or whatever, it might be different. But it’s not about that, really, anymore.”

All I can say to that now is BULLSHIT!

[pinstripezac]

Originally Posted by 26 to 6

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/06/sp...r=2&ref=sports



Sliding into home has a good quote from Andy in September posted on the blog,

“Obviously anyone else would say, ‘I’ll go wherever I want to,’ because people want to try to get the most money,” Pettitte said before a Yankees-Angels game in Anaheim, Calif. “But, I mean, I’m not going anywhere, you know what I’m saying? The Yankees know me enough, it’s not like I’m going to hold out. I guess if I had spent all my money or whatever, it might be different. But it’s not about that, really, anymore.”

All I can say to that now is BULLSHIT!

BS is right

a 37.5% paycut is BS

I don't think he was expecting that when he made those comments

I won't say it's not about the money

but respect has something to do with it as well



no big deal I disagree with Tyler Kepner

I think the yanks will up there offer

andy fits there needs better than anyone else out there

[26 to 6]

I truly think that despite making $16 mil last year that based on his worth $10 mil is a generous offer.

Look at the contracts some of the free agents have had to settle for this offseason, it's clear the owners aren't as free-spending as in years past, with the state of the economy and whatnot. Does he really think he can get a better deal elsewhere? And besides, $10 mil is no small chunk of change. You give me $10 mil and I'll never work another day in my life.

[ARod2212]

$10 million is more than fair. Milton Bradley just signed for $30 million over 3, and he's coming off a monster year.

Pettitte's trying to play hardball, and considering how much money they've doled out this offseason, it makes sense. But he's going to be in for a rude awakening if Cashman doesn't budge.

[26 to 6]

And another thing to consider if you're Pettitte is that although reports are that the Yankees are content going into the season with Hughes as the #5, I have to think the Yanks would have to consider looking elsewhere to fill the spot that was intended for Andy. Say a Lowe, Sheets, etc. Andy might find himself without a spot if he drags this out too long.

Then again I suppose the possibility exists that if the Yankees do sign another starter and then Pettitte decides he wants to return that Joba could go to the pen to accomodate both Andy and whoever else would have been signed. I think that's the best case scenario. But it seems the Yankees are pretty set on letting Joba start out in the rotation.

[a700hitter]

So much for the myth of Pettitte, the good guy, family man and team player. He has already been exposed as a cheater. His coming to the Yankees proved that his going to Houston had nothing to do with being closer to home. Now, his spurning of the Yankee offer, which is very fair for a .500 pitcher with a high ERA, demonstrates that he was full of it when he said that if he didn't retire, he would only pitch for the Skanks.

[Paradisecity]

Originally Posted by ARod2212

$10 million is more than fair. Milton Bradley just signed for $30 million over 3, and he's coming off a monster year.

Pettitte's trying to play hardball, and considering how much money they've doled out this offseason, it makes sense. But he's going to be in for a rude awakening if Cashman doesn't budge.

I didn't realize that Milton Bradley was pitching these days!

[redsoxrules]

I'd be shocked if Pettitte gets more than 10 mil a year

[riverside sluggers]

Id say he goes back to the Astros, or joins Torre with the Dodgers

[BoSox21]

Is he a hypocrite if he retires?

[BSN07]

I don't see why everyone is surprised

The Yanks gave Burnett 16M+ a season. He's a career .533% pitcher.

Andy Peittitte made 16M last season. He was a .500% pitcher. Over the course of his career, he has been a far superior pitcher, been more durable, won more big games and They offer him 10M. Yes he is older. But also comes on a short term deal.

Why would he believe he is worth 10 and not the 16 they juat paid Burnett? If this is last offseason, it's a no brainer.

Please don't mistake this for me thinking Pettitte is worth 16M a year. It isn't. I don't think AJ is either. But the Yankees set the pitching market. And in the market they set, Pettitte is worth more then 10M.


Besides at this point of his career it's ego. Think about it, if your job came to you and said "we want you to take a pay cuy of 37%." When the just hired the boss's step son to do the same job as you, but pay him even more then you make currently. What would be your reaction?

Yes these guys are millionairs, but there guys. And no guy at his stage of life wanst to go backwards, would you?

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Originally Posted by bosoxnation07

I don't see why everyone is surprised

The Yanks gave Burnett 16M+ a season. He's a career .533% pitcher.

Andy Peittitte made 16M last season. He was a .500% pitcher. Over the course of his career, he has been a far superior pitcher, been more durable, won more big games and They offer him 10M. Yes he is older. But also comes on a short term deal.

Why would he believe he is worth 10 and not the 16 they juat paid Burnett? If this is last offseason, it's a no brainer.

Please don't mistake this for me thinking Pettitte is worth 16M a year. It isn't. I don't think AJ is either. But the Yankees set the pitching market. And in the market they set, Pettitte is worth more then 10M.

Because you pay a guy for what you think he will do for you this season, not what he has done for the team the last 10 years.

Originally Posted by bosoxnation07

Besides at this point of his career it's ego. Think about it, if your job came to you and said "we want you to take a pay cuy of 37%." When the just hired the boss's step son to do the same job as you, but pay him even more then you make currently. What would be your reaction?

Yes these guys are millionairs, but there guys. And no guy at his stage of life wanst to go backwards, would you?

I understand that reasoning about the pay cut, but baseball is a different beast. In the business world, the older you get and the more experience you have, the more value you have. You are paid for your past success and experience. This is true until you retire. Not so in baseball. You are paid based on what you are projected to do, based on your past. There comes a time when your skills decline, and your projections for the future are lowered. It's a bell curve instead of a steady increase.

Besides, look at all of the other veteran guys who are taking a pay cut this year. It's not like Andy is in a unique situation here. The Yankees gave him a more than fair offer based on the market this offseason.

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Originally Posted by riverside sluggers

Id say he goes back to the Astros, or joins Torre with the Dodgers

I think Atlanta and the Rangers are also strong possibilities.

[Optimist]

Oh well. It was a fair offer and if he doesn't want it, well that's his option as a player. No team is going to offer him more than $10 million, especially if the Yankees declare they're not going to budge and are done negotiating.

[BSN07]

Originally Posted by 26 Reasons to Hate Us

Because you pay a guy for what you think he will do for you this season, not what he has done for the team the last 10 years.



I understand that reasoning about the pay cut, but baseball is a different beast. In the business world, the older you get and the more experience you have, the more value you have. You are paid for your past success and experience. This is true until you retire. Not so in baseball. You are paid based on what you are projected to do, based on your past. There comes a time when your skills decline, and your projections for the future are lowered. It's a bell curve instead of a steady increase.

Besides, look at all of the other veteran guys who are taking a pay cut this year. It's not like Andy is in a unique situation here. The Yankees gave him a more than fair offer based on the market this offseason.

I was trying to convey what his line of thinking probably is.