Red Sox Forum and Message Board

Talksox Forum Home   Talksox - Red Sox Forum / Message Board > General Baseball Forum > Damn Yankees
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Arcade Mark Forums Read

Welcome to Talksox. For full access to all of our features, register for your free account now.
Registration allows you to:
  • Respond to over 500,000 posts in 12,000+ threads by 5,000 members
  • Send private messages, share photos, make friends
  • Gain full access to the best Red Sox community on the internet

If you are a current Talksox member, this message will disappear after you log in.

Vivid Seats is a great one-stop source for MLB game dates and tickets. Find MLB tickets for all teams including opening day, regular season and playoffs - Red Sox tickets are onsale now, as well as Houston Astros tickets for the entire baseball season.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-01-2009, 10:53 PM   #46 (permalink)
Dutchy
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 27 2009
Location: Quebec
Posts: 2,028
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

Quote:
Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
I said he has a Cabrera type bat. I did not say he would be Cabrera. What I mean is, for a very young kid, he has incredible power, size, contact skills and patience at the plate. Now, you tried to make comparisons, so how bout we make some?

Age 18 Miguel Cabrera
LoA .268/.328/.382

Age 18 Jesus Montero
LoA .326/.376/.491

Age 19 Miguel Cabrera
HiA .274/.333/.421

Age 19 Jesus Montero
HiA .356/.406/.583
AA .319/.395/.542

Through his age 19 season, Cabrera had hit 19 homers in the entirety of his MiLB career. With half a season left, Montero has hit 32.

So, Montero is significantly ahead of the pace Cabrera set. To be fair, Cabrera's age 20 season was ridiculous in AA which prompted his callup. So, no, I am not overrating our prospects on this one. Montero is a legit offensive talent who is tearing through the minor leagues as the youngest player in his league. They also share another common thread as both are Venezuelan.

So, to reiterate for those who seem to be a bit thicker than others. Montero has a very advanced bat for such a young age. One that is not seen on a regular basis and his bat has the potential to make him a very rare and talented player. The only thing keeping him back is his defense.
Wow, you just sent my bullshit meter through the roof. No one gives a flying fuck how many home runs Montero has hit against rookie and single a pitchers... even if they're both Venezuelan

You.are.ridiculous.

Montero is a good offensive prospect who's proven he can hit Single A pitching. That's it. He IS NOT an elite prospect. Sorry, but he just isn't, regardless of how much you jerk off over him. Go try to post this bullshit in a Yankees forum and see how fast they laugh at you.

And don't go calling other people on this site thick, like you're intelligent. Please. You're the joke of this site. Even the Yankees fans make fun of you.
Dutchy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2009, 11:09 PM   #47 (permalink)
jacksonianmarch
Catalyst
 
jacksonianmarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 02 2006
Posts: 18,284
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

There isnt much rebuttal for pure ignorance. Enjoy your night.
__________________
Another championship for the best franchise in the history of organized sports. It's a great time to be a Yankee fan.
jacksonianmarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2009, 11:09 PM   #48 (permalink)
Dipre
His critics are off-base
 
Dipre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 02 2008
Location: Far away.
Posts: 13,820
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutchy View Post
Wow, you just sent my bullshit meter through the roof. No one gives a flying fuck how many home runs Montero has hit against rookie and single a pitchers... even if they're both Venezuelan

You.are.ridiculous.

Montero is a good offensive prospect who's proven he can hit Single A pitching. That's it. He IS NOT an elite prospect. Sorry, but he just isn't, regardless of how much you jerk off over him. Go try to post this bullshit in a Yankees forum and see how fast they laugh at you.

And don't go calling other people on this site thick, like you're intelligent. Please. You're the joke of this site. Even the Yankees fans make fun of you.
Signature. Worthy.
__________________
Quote:
“I think a lot of times there’s a tendency to pigeonhole players or label them based on things we think we know about them by the way they act.’’
-Theo Epstein
Dipre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2009, 11:31 PM   #49 (permalink)
Dutchy
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 27 2009
Location: Quebec
Posts: 2,028
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

Quote:
Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
There isnt much rebuttal for pure ignorance. Enjoy your night.
I agree completely. That's why it's impossible to try to argue someone saying Montero is the next Miguel Cabrera because he put up better Single A ball numbers. I could use the same argument to say Ian Kennedy is better than Roger Clemens.

Follow Yankees prospects for a few more years, read up on player development and maybe you could hang in a serious conversation about prospects. If you don't believe me, then please go into a Yankees forum and say Montero is a Cabrera type impact bat and see how fast they run you out of there.

I'm not kidding. Seriously, PLEASE go into a Yankees forum saying Montero is a Cabrera type bat and send me the link. It would make my day.

This isn't even a matter of you being biased. You simply don't know what you're talking about.

Last edited by Dutchy; 07-01-2009 at 11:42 PM.
Dutchy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2009, 07:57 AM   #50 (permalink)
jacksonianmarch
Catalyst
 
jacksonianmarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 02 2006
Posts: 18,284
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

Like I said, you cannot rebut idiocy. I did not say he was the next Miguel Cabrera. In prospect circles, a Miguel Cabrera type bat does not mean that the player will hit like Miguel Cabrera. It means, that at a very young age, he has significantly advanced power, patience and contact. A ton of things could go wrong between now and when he debuts. But right now, he has a Cabrera type bat because he's 19 in a league filled with 23 yr olds and he is destroying pitching while maintaining a good K rate, a high average, a high SLG, and a high OBP
__________________
Another championship for the best franchise in the history of organized sports. It's a great time to be a Yankee fan.
jacksonianmarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2009, 07:45 PM   #51 (permalink)
jacksonianmarch
Catalyst
 
jacksonianmarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 02 2006
Posts: 18,284
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

BTW, he hit another one tonight
__________________
Another championship for the best franchise in the history of organized sports. It's a great time to be a Yankee fan.
jacksonianmarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2009, 07:58 PM   #52 (permalink)
TheKilo
Deity
 
Join Date: Apr 17 2006
Posts: 19,311
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

Make your picks
TheKilo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2009, 11:39 PM   #53 (permalink)
diony
All-Star
 
diony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 09 2008
Posts: 805
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

.325/.395/.571 so far in AA.
__________________
Back
diony is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2009, 08:54 AM   #54 (permalink)
jacksonianmarch
Catalyst
 
jacksonianmarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 02 2006
Posts: 18,284
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

at 19, but he isnt an elite prospect. No way. LOL.
__________________
Another championship for the best franchise in the history of organized sports. It's a great time to be a Yankee fan.
jacksonianmarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2009, 05:10 PM   #55 (permalink)
BSN07
Legend
 
BSN07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 30 2006
Location: Huizen, Netherlands
Posts: 7,013
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

Don't know much about the kid. But considering his age and the numbers he's putting up I'd be excited if he was in the Red Sox system.

He still has a lot to prove. It's a nice start though.
__________________
Mark Teahen once ate a Rubix cube and shat it out solved...wut
BSN07 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2009, 08:58 PM   #56 (permalink)
jacksonianmarch
Catalyst
 
jacksonianmarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 02 2006
Posts: 18,284
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

2 for 3 tonight, BA up to .338
__________________
Another championship for the best franchise in the history of organized sports. It's a great time to be a Yankee fan.
jacksonianmarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2009, 09:27 PM   #57 (permalink)
jacksonianmarch
Catalyst
 
jacksonianmarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 02 2006
Posts: 18,284
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

http://www.projectprospect.com/artic...-prospect-list

Montero is rated as the #11 prospect in the minors at this point by Project Prospect. McCallister fits in at 34 and Jackson at 48. But, as you know, he isnt a top prospect. Nope, not at all.
__________________
Another championship for the best franchise in the history of organized sports. It's a great time to be a Yankee fan.
jacksonianmarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2009, 09:30 PM   #58 (permalink)
Coco's Disciples
Is With Coco
 
Coco's Disciples's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 27 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 19,519
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

Great, one person said he wasn't. I think everyone else admits he is. Get over it.
Coco's Disciples is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2009, 10:02 PM   #59 (permalink)
jacksonianmarch
Catalyst
 
jacksonianmarch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 02 2006
Posts: 18,284
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

finished 3-4 tonight with a BB. AVG up to .346 and OPS right near 1.000 as a 19 yr old in AA
__________________
Another championship for the best franchise in the history of organized sports. It's a great time to be a Yankee fan.
jacksonianmarch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2009, 06:30 PM   #60 (permalink)
Dutchy
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 27 2009
Location: Quebec
Posts: 2,028
Default Re: Jesus Montero heads to AA

Quote:
Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
finished 3-4 tonight with a BB. AVG up to .346 and OPS right near 1.000 as a 19 yr old in AA


I don't think anyone cares. I get that you have a raging boner for the guy but we really don't need you to update his stats line every time he gets a hit. He's gonna spend the year in Double-A, so we can just wait until the end of the year to check the stats.
Dutchy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Enjoy great Boston Red Sox tickets for a shockingly affordable price with we here at OnlineSeats.
________________________________________

Find your favorite Red Sox memorabilia or Red Sox autographs, each is guaranteed to be authentic and comes with a certificate.
________________________________________

NCAAB point spread | Play Rummy
________________________________________

Boston Red Sox Merchandise - Shop Boston Red Sox Merchandise Online at DieHardFans.com at competitive rates.

Talksox Recommends: Boston Dirt Dogs
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0
Copyright © 2004-2008 Talksox.com