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06-30-2009, 07:40 PM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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It wasn't just a weird facial expression. He twisted his hip to make a throw, jumped up like something bit him and winced. Might not be serious pain, could just be something in there popping or grinding. Who knows what's going on in that hip, he didn't get the full surgery.
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Again, that's why it's all just theory. What we do know is that he seems to be more mobile lately and he's hitting the ball much better.
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06-30-2009, 07:43 PM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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Originally Posted by yankees228
Again, that's why it's all just theory. What we do know is that he seems to be more mobile lately and he's hitting the ball much better.
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What's a theory? He definitely did jump up and wince. No one knows what's going on in his hip. And he didn't get the full surgery.
All of those are facts buddy.
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06-30-2009, 07:53 PM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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Originally Posted by Dutchy
What's a theory? He definitely did jump up and wince. No one knows what's going on in his hip. And he didn't get the full surgery.
All of those are facts buddy.
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How do you know it was the hip that's bothering him? You're putting a few things together, but that proves nothing. Do you disagree that he has shown much better range lately and is hitter much better? Don't you think those also might be signs that he is healthy?
EDIT: And some of your premise for this argument was that they got Hinske for 3B, which is incorrect.
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06-30-2009, 08:33 PM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
Hopefully A-Rod will get his weekly 1 day rest now.
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06-30-2009, 08:46 PM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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Originally Posted by yankees228
How do you know it was the hip that's bothering him? You're putting a few things together, but that proves nothing. Do you disagree that he has shown much better range lately and is hitter much better? Don't you think those also might be signs that he is healthy?
EDIT: And some of your premise for this argument was that they got Hinske for 3B, which is incorrect.
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Where did I say it was his hip that bothered him? You're putting words in my mouth. I said he jumped up and winced, and that no one knows what's going on with his hip.
If Hinske is more for the outfield, then he isn't an offensive or defensive upgrade. Melky and Gardner are both similar hitters/better fielders.
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06-30-2009, 09:13 PM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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Originally Posted by Dutchy
Where did I say it was his hip that bothered him? You're putting words in my mouth. I said he jumped up and winced, and that no one knows what's going on with his hip.
If Hinske is more for the outfield, then he isn't an offensive or defensive upgrade. Melky and Gardner are both similar hitters/better fielders.
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Well, you were talking about his hip surgery in conjunction with him wincing. I thought that's what you were implying. If you weren't I apologize.
However, if you're not tying him wincing to his hip surgery, then I guess I'm missing the point. Is him wincing even relevant?
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06-30-2009, 09:19 PM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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Well, you were talking about his hip surgery in conjunction with him wincing. I thought that's what you were implying. If you weren't I apologize.
However, if you're not tying him wincing to his hip surgery, then I guess I'm missing the point. Is him wincing even relevant?
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I was just stating the facts. He was wincing, and no one knows what might happen with his hip. So it makes sense the Yankees would acquire someone who can play 3B. I don't care what Cashman said, the Yankees already have 4 outfielders.
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06-30-2009, 09:21 PM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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I was just stating the facts. He was wincing, and no one knows what might happen with his hip. So it makes sense the Yankees would acquire someone who can play 3B. I don't care what Cashman said, the Yankees already have 4 outfielders.
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Think about it though. They were counting on Nady coming back. Now that he's done, they want another bat. Makes sense to me. Also, they have Cody Ransom to play third.
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06-30-2009, 09:26 PM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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Think about it though. They were counting on Nady coming back. Now that he's done, they want another bat. Makes sense to me. Also, they have Cody Ransom to play third.
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06-30-2009, 09:52 PM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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Think about it though. They were counting on Nady coming back. Now that he's done, they want another bat. Makes sense to me. Also, they have Cody Ransom to play third.
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Come on, Cody Ransom sucks. He's a career .239/.325/.412 hitter who's hitting .200/.241/.345 this year.
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07-01-2009, 01:00 AM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
Cashman had nothing to do...so he made the deal.
It does benefit in theory as follows:
Hinske gives the Yankees a decent bat and allows them to rest Arod once a week according to the Phillipon Rules. It allows Pena to go to the minors, where the Yankees want to play him in the outfield a bit to see if he cam be a super-sub type, coming in defensively in every late-inning win. He'll be back in about two months anyways.
Hinske can play 1B, 3B, and OF. He can cover 4 postions adequetely [CF below average]. This gives them some versatility on the bench.
Hinske sees 4.05 pitches an at-bat. Another grinder, helping get into the weaker underside of most teams rotations.
Now...I'd love to take credit for knowing all this shit about a marginal, 1-2 day a week player, but I took all this information off of a Joel Sherman article in the NY Post.
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07-01-2009, 01:06 AM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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Originally Posted by Gom
Cashman had nothing to do...so he made the deal.
It does benefit in theory as follows:
Hinske gives the Yankees a decent bat and allows them to rest Arod once a week according to the Phillipon Rules. It allows Pena to go to the minors, where the Yankees want to play him in the outfield a bit to see if he cam be a super-sub type, coming in defensively in every late-inning win. He'll be back in about two months anyways.
Hinske can play 1B, 3B, and OF. He can cover 4 postions adequetely [CF below average]. This gives them some versatility on the bench.
Hinske sees 4.05 pitches an at-bat. Another grinder, helping get into the weaker underside of most teams rotations.
Now...I'd love to take credit for knowing all this shit about a marginal, 1-2 day a week player, but I took all this information off of a Joel Sherman article in the NY Post.
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Figured, it had statistics and insight 
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07-01-2009, 02:00 AM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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Come on, Cody Ransom sucks. He's a career .239/.325/.412 hitter who's hitting .200/.241/.345 this year.
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Never said Cody Ransom was any good, just saying that's how the Yankees view the situation (I think).
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07-01-2009, 02:03 AM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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Never said Cody Ransom was any good, just saying that's how the Yankees view the situation (I think).
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I'm pretty sure they'd rather have Ransom in the minors.
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07-01-2009, 02:04 AM
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Re: Yanks get Hinske
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I'm pretty sure they'd rather have Ransom in the minors.
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At the beginning of the year they were willing to go with him at third base till A-Rod came back.
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