Yankees 2012-2013 Offseason Thread - Page 19 - Talksox

jacksonianmarch · 01-31-2013, 12:03 AM

A healthy Pronk in Yankee Stadium would be ridiculous. Alas, a healthy Pronk became extinct after 2007

rjortiz · 01-31-2013, 11:05 AM

I like this deal for the Yankees. He's a good asset against right-handed pitching.

BSN07 · 01-31-2013, 11:34 AM

Any kind of LHH power threat instantly has value for the Yanks a YS imo. Would be a solid sign.

BSN07 · 01-31-2013, 11:35 AM

I'm reading everywhere Yanks are trying to void Arods deal. Thoughts in general from our Yankee mates here on the board?

Meh · 01-31-2013, 12:01 PM

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I'm reading everywhere Yanks are trying to void Arods deal. Thoughts in general from our Yankee mates here on the board?

Hell Yes. I don't think they'll void it, but it seems like if he sits out this year and they can pay a doctor off they can buy him out for 15% and insurance will pick up the rest of his deal. Which would be like Christmas morning for the Yankees.

Laser Show · 01-31-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Meh

Hell Yes. I don't think they'll void it, but it seems like if he sits out this year and they can pay a doctor off they can buy him out for 15% and insurance will pick up the rest of his deal. Which would be like Christmas morning for the Yankees.

Why is it possible they can void his deal if he misses the whole season? Players with bad deals (John Lackey for example) miss seasons fairly often and voiding their contracts never comes up.

Meh · 01-31-2013, 05:34 PM

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Why is it possible they can void his deal if he misses the whole season? Players with bad deals (John Lackey for example) miss seasons fairly often and voiding their contracts never comes up.

Not void. collect the insurance as a career ending injury. He sits out a year and then comes back in 2014 with a different team, but idk we'll see.

Palodios · 01-31-2013, 06:34 PM

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Not void. collect the insurance as a career ending injury. He sits out a year and then comes back in 2014 with a different team, but idk we'll see.

I just don't understand the whole situation. Teams have had bad players on bad contracts for a long time, and no one else had out clauses. All the reports I've heard state that insurance companies won't touch players past the 4th year of the deal, and most of them only go up to 50% coverage, but somehow the Yankees get 85% for all years? There is a good deal of false information going out about this situation.

BSN07 · 02-01-2013, 08:37 AM

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I just don't understand the whole situation. Teams have had bad players on bad contracts for a long time, and no one else had out clauses. All the reports I've heard state that insurance companies won't touch players past the 4th year of the deal, and most of them only go up to 50% coverage, but somehow the Yankees get 85% for all years? There is a good deal of false information going out about this situation.

The Yankees are probably paying a pretty high premium to get that kind of coverage.

mvp 78 · 02-01-2013, 08:46 AM

How many years were the O's paying Albert Belle after his career ended? Why should the Yanks be treated differently?

Meh · 02-01-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Palodios

I just don't understand the whole situation. Teams have had bad players on bad contracts for a long time, and no one else had out clauses. All the reports I've heard state that insurance companies won't touch players past the 4th year of the deal, and most of them only go up to 50% coverage, but somehow the Yankees get 85% for all years? There is a good deal of false information going out about this situation.

Well I'm sure the price for that insurance was pretty high. I remember the Yankees only ended up paying Pavano $11.35 million of his $39.95 million deal. Granted that was only a four year deal and 40 million, not 270 million.

jacksonianmarch · 02-01-2013, 08:34 PM

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How many years were the O's paying Albert Belle after his career ended? Why should the Yanks be treated differently?

Belle's money was mostly paid by insurance. The Yankees are hoping ARod goes down the Belle path way

pinstripezac · 02-01-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Palodios

I just don't understand the whole situation. Teams have had bad players on bad contracts for a long time, and no one else had out clauses. All the reports I've heard state that insurance companies won't touch players past the 4th year of the deal, and most of them only go up to 50% coverage, but somehow the Yankees get 85% for all years? There is a good deal of false information going out about this situation.

a good deal of false information going out about

definitely the understatement of the yr

FWIW B4 this week I was under the impression

with these long contracts you could only insure a guy 3 or 4 years at a time

like U said it still doesn't explain the ''85% for all years''

especally considering he already had hip issues

but I'm guessing if one is willing to pay enough

one can get coverage for most anying

interesting to find out (read only once) durring the napoli saga

sox don't insure their players

The Campfighter · 02-01-2013, 11:14 PM

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Not void. collect the insurance as a career ending injury. He sits out a year and then comes back in 2014 with a different team, but idk we'll see.

Pretty sure the insurance company will be asking for their money back if he comes back from a "career ending" injury.

jacksonianmarch · 02-14-2013, 10:42 PM

The Yankees dealt Abraham Almonte to the Mariners for Shawn Kelley. Kelley is a RH reliever who has been pretty solid for the M's in their MiLB system and has put up solid numbers thus far in parts of 4 seasons in the bigs. Low 90s heat with a good slider, he projects to earn a spot in middle relief