Dontrelle to Yanks? - Page 2 - Talksox

Coco's Disciples · 11-30-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gom

I wouldn't trade Wang for Willis straight up.

I'm just reporting what I heard driving home, and then found online, with the disclaimer that the Marlins would be nuts to agree. Maybe Marlins ownership hates the Sox, and figures that getting Ramirez and Sanchez wasn't enough. Who knows?

Yea since the Yanks are everyone's favorite team!

nickw308810 · 11-30-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by riverside sluggers

The Sox had to take Lowell because it was a salary dump attached to Beckett, and Mota was added because of Boston's concerns about preliniary bad reports on Beckett's shoulder

Agreed, but that doesn't diminish the fact that Lowell is a decent hitting 3B with gold glove caliber defense and Mota was a guy with some upside as well. We didn't just get Beckett in return, we got 2 other decent major leaguers. I for one was happy with how Lowell played and Mota had some trade value for us. You can't look at the deal without factoring those two into it.

ARod2212 · 11-30-2006, 05:50 PM

I've mentioned this possible trade a couple of times, before the rumors started. Don't sell Cabrera short defensively, he can play all three positions well.

Personally I'm not that high on Willis, and probably wouldn't trade Melky and Sanchez.

Gom · 11-30-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Coco's Disciples

Yea since the Yanks are everyone's favorite team!

No, I think Wang is a better pitcher than Dontrelle. That's why. I would trade Wang for Halliday or Santana, because they are better...get the drift here?

Coco's Disciples · 11-30-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gom

No, I think Wang is a better pitcher than Dontrelle. That's why. I would trade Wang for Halliday or Santana, because they are better...get the drift here?

Not exactly sure what you're talking about here...read the 2nd half of the quote.

TheKilo · 11-30-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gom

No, I think Wang is a better pitcher than Dontrelle. That's why. I would trade Wang for Halliday or Santana, because they are better...get the drift here?

You're quite the homer, aren't you?

On what planet is Wang a better pitcher than Dontrelle Willis?

ARod2212 · 11-30-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKilo

You're quite the homer, aren't you?

On what planet is Wang a better pitcher than Dontrelle Willis?

I'd rather have Wang, without question. This isn't being a homer, this is me looking at a guy whose already proven he can pitch in the AL East vs. a guy who hasn't. Until Willis shows to me he can do it here, I prefer Wang.

a700hitter · 11-30-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ARod2212

I'd rather have Wang, without question. This isn't being a homer, this is me looking at a guy whose already proven he can pitch in the AL East vs. a guy who hasn't. Until Willis shows to me he can do it here, I prefer Wang.

The yankees wish you were the Marlin's GM.

redsoxrules · 11-30-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ARod2212

I'd rather have Wang, without question. This isn't being a homer, this is me looking at a guy whose already proven he can pitch in the AL East vs. a guy who hasn't. Until Willis shows to me he can do it here, I prefer Wang.

proven ? he's had one full year in the AL . wait this year his ERA will jump at 4.5 at least

TheKilo · 11-30-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ARod2212

I'd rather have Wang, without question. This isn't being a homer, this is me looking at a guy whose already proven he can pitch in the AL East vs. a guy who hasn't. Until Willis shows to me he can do it here, I prefer Wang.

Wang's peripherals aren't as good as his numbers were this last year. If he reverts to the mean what happens then?

Willis has performed at a MUCH higher level thsn Wang has. Wang had a 121 ERA+ this year (when he was supposedly the second best pitcher in the AL)

Last year Willis had an ERA of 153+. In a supposed down year this year, he had one of 112+.

ARod2212 · 11-30-2006, 09:55 PM

If you can name me one former Marlin pitcher who's had a good year in the AL East I'll drop it. Until he shows me he can do it, I'm taking Wang.

rician blast · 11-30-2006, 10:15 PM

Willis may be better and he is younger, but it'd be pretty hard to justify any move of Wang at this point. He may be a Yank but damn the kid has been good...27-11 thus far in his MLB career.

What I'd really hate to see is him AND Wang in the same rotation, assuming the Yankees found a way to make a deal without losing Chin.

Coco's Disciples · 11-30-2006, 10:16 PM

That would take Hughes.

example1 · 11-30-2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ARod2212

I'd rather have Wang, without question. This isn't being a homer, this is me looking at a guy whose already proven he can pitch in the AL East vs. a guy who hasn't. Until Willis shows to me he can do it here, I prefer Wang.

SO by definition doesn't that mean that you would never trade for anyone in the NL? If Willis has to pitch for the Yankees before he pitches for the Yankees you're never going to get there.

SchillingIsTheNatural · 11-30-2006, 10:31 PM

Dontrelle Willis is a better pitcher than Ching Wang.....that doesn't mean Wang couldn't beat him in a game necessarily. Overall Willis has better stuff and a great personality (something Wang does not pocesses).