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02-14-2007, 03:13 PM
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Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
http://baseballprospectus.com/articl...14a45b3 d3053
and it isnt even close. The yankees composite farm system pitching score was 74. The 2nd highest was 64 in florida. The distance between 64 and 54 spans spots 2 through 11.
The yankees rated 4th overall mostly due to placing 18th in offensive farm system.
The sox rated 11th overall, 7th in pitching with Buchholz leading the way.
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02-14-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch
http://baseballprospectus.com/articl...14a45b3 d3053
and it isnt even close. The yankees composite farm system pitching score was 74. The 2nd highest was 64 in florida. The distance between 64 and 54 spans spots 2 through 11.
The yankees rated 4th overall mostly due to placing 18th in offensive farm system.
The sox rated 11th overall, 7th in pitching with Buchholz leading the way.
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Good for them. For many years the KC Royals had that honor... didn't they? That's select company.
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02-14-2007, 07:34 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
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Good for them. For many years the KC Royals had that honor... didn't they? That's select company.
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No, not even close.
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02-14-2007, 08:06 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
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Good for them. For many years the KC Royals had that honor... didn't they? That's select company.
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actually, I dont think they ever did.
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02-15-2007, 07:05 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
omg Phil hughez!!11!oneoneone
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02-15-2007, 07:23 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
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omg Phil hughez!!11!oneoneone
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Let's save the bashing on jacks for when he's talkin up kids in A ball, not legit ace prospects..
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02-15-2007, 07:27 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
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Let's save the bashing on jacks for when he's talkin up kids in A ball, not legit ace prospects..
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I am totally and utterly confused.
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02-15-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
Your return just brought this site's IQ down 100 points.
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02-15-2007, 07:46 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
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Your return just brought this site's IQ down 100 points.
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It's already legally retarded, what's a 100 point decrease matter?
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02-15-2007, 08:34 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
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It's already legally retarded, what's a 100 point decrease matter?
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02-15-2007, 09:06 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
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Plenty of exciting pitchers throughout the system, both in starting and relief roles, but who is going to hit?
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Here's the problem with things like this list. Yeah, if we had to create new teams out of Farm Systems then the Sox wouldn't have hitters. Fortunately, they just hired JD Drew for 5 years, Julio Lugo for 4, they have Crisp for 3 more (and an option for the 4th), Wily Mo Pena for 2 more seasons (also due for an extension if he plays well this year), Youkilis under Sox control for 4 seasons, Pedroia for like 6 (he has less than a year of ML service) and Ortiz until 2011. That's 7 guys who could potentially be MLB caliber for the next 5 years. By then? I don't know, but the qualifier above was "Jacoby Ellsbury is the only star-potential hitter who is close". In 5 years those "non-close" people will be quite close indeed. Combine that with a FO that has had 2 of the best drafts recently and have money to spend, and I'm not really too concerned with the Sox offensive ranking.
I think the Yankees are largely in the same situation, though they have less of their future solidified--especially if A-Rod is a questionmark. you have to figure Jeter and Cano are here to stay, Damon will be around for a few years and I could see him signing a Berniesque extension. Otherwise, I'm vexed.
That said, I think the Sox and Yanks both approach drafts with a pitching heavy approach and I think that's a great way to do it. Look at the immediate impact that guys like Hudson, Zito and Mulder had on an otherwise weak A's team. I don't think there's anything wrong with havin gthe #7 ranked pitching system. Not only has some of that already paid off (Jon Papelbon) but other parts of it are close (Hansen, Lester, Delcarmen) and other parts are between 2-3 years away (Buchholz, Bard, Bowden).
If the Sox traded away two marquee players like Randy Johnson and Gary Sheffield they could get some great prospects too. What they couldn't get and didn't get were great major league players, and that's what ultimately matters.
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02-15-2007, 09:39 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
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This is pure comedy ..
.. Joba Chamberlain who according to BP
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What he did in 2006: Signed too late to make his debut.
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is a very good prospect yet they rate Daniel Bard a "good prospect" .. ..
.. Like I said, pure comedy ..
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Chamberlain blew away scouts in the Hawaiian Winter League
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07-14-2007, 01:19 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
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This is pure comedy ..
.. Joba Chamberlain who according to BP is a very good prospect yet they rate Daniel Bard a "good prospect" .. ..
.. Like I said, pure comedy ..
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what now Nate?
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07-14-2007, 01:25 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
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what now Nate?
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He wasn't posting with a centered format. He wasn't thinking clearly. 
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07-22-2007, 07:27 PM
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Re: Yankees ranked top pitching farm system in the game
I am curious. Once Phil Hughes joins the rotation, where do you the Yankees rank? A team's ranking is a joke. The whole idea of the minor leagues is to feed the major league club. So what happens when Hughes and Chamberlain and Kennedy Sanchez and Offendahl make it or are traded [or flame out]? The Yankees drop in the shitter with their rankings.
This is why the rankings mean pretty much nothing. You want to know who has the best farm system? The one that turns out the best players. The cycle never ends. A team's minor league system is just that. It's minor. It's used to help the Major League Team.
A team that has a slew of low level minor leaguerers with decent/high upside, had a very strong draft, but no legitimate prospects for say this year is a much better system than one that has a bunch of journeyman with decent numbers in Double A. Why? The first system will feed the team in the upcoming years much better. However, if you can trade those prospects for major leaguers, you do it, with the moronic rankings be damned for the minors.
This was my rant for the day.
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