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[bosoxnation07]

Thats just an example of AROD sticking his foot in his mouth like he does on a regular basis. At that time I don't think he realized it would make that big of a deal because for the most part most people would have agreed about what he was saying.

Papi made comments on the same type of level AROD did but he didn´t get nearly as much shit for it.

[bosoxnation07]

He never will ownup to it now, maybe after he retires and is out of the NY spot light. To admit there is a problem is to admit that you have been lying the whole time.

Jeter will admit the he had a rift with Arod and stop denying it the same time he comes out of the closet.

[He Hate Me]

Originally Posted by bosoxnation07

The interview that Arod had a few years back that started all this was true at the time. When NY was winning championships( jeter was a significant player) but teams where not looking at stopping him. They wanted to stop Paul, Bernie, Tino. Jeter wasn't the #1 guy back then like he is now. Jeter is acting like a baby about the hole thing. Hes just mad someone said publicly, but if you truley are a baseball fan and know the game then you already new that he was a good player and an important one but he wasn't #1 on those teams. Jeter has had a great career, but you have to admit he has had a great line up around him for his whole career. Put Jeter in another line up and he will be good but nowhere near as good as he has been.

I'll handily disagree with that. Jeter has performed well in any spot that he's batted in regardless of who is batting around him or not. As for Paulie, Bernie or Tino, I love them but Jeter's way more talented than they could be, and everyone knows it. Those comments by ARod were just pure jealousy, and "real baseball fans" had Jeter almost grabbing a MVP crown last season, so I'd sya they think Jeter is pretty damn good.

[jacksonianmarch]

I dont give a flying fuck if Jeter is taking ARod wife out for sushima then double teams her with David Wells. The late 70s teams HATED each other. Just win a fucking series and stop being an overly sensitive bitch about it (directed at ARod).

[BudLight]

Originally Posted by He Hate Me

it is an issue because it has obviously affected ARod's performance on the field. If being a Captain was all about putting up stats, then Bonds would be the undisputed leader of the Giants. But why was Varitek more of a leader than a healthy Nomar? A captain HAS to do his best to get the best out of his teammates, and if that means swallowing your pride and at least ADDRESS THE FRIGGING ISSUE INSTEAD OF PRETENDING IT DOESN"T EXIST, then you go ahead and do that. Jeter has to take the initiative and run wtih this because it's obuivous ARod is walking on glass around Derek and it's affecting his game.

So every Yankee should bow down and kiss A-Rod's ass to help him deal with a sense of belonging. Here's a better idea, hire a hooker with big tits that he can suckle on, maybe that will help with his sense of belonging and his need to be accepted. Fuck A-Rod and his sensitive $250M ego. The Yankees didn't need him when Jeter and crew were winning 4 championships and they don't need him now. He's the last in a long line of ego maniacs to wear the pinstripes. IMHO, the sooner he leaves the better the "team" will be for it.

[rician blast]

And if Jeter was a true "leader" he'd put that ARod comment behind him, if that's truly what fractured their once strong relaitonship. For krist sake, he's pretty immature if he harbors ill-feelings over an Esquire article years ago, especially when the comments were made by a guy who has a habit of saying stuff that lands him in hot water.

I'm starting to really think ARod's recent comments were a conscious attempt to bring this out, force Jeter to deal with it in some respect, so that they can move on. I'm leaning toward the point of view that Jeter deliberately refuses to allow ARod to get over the discomfort, and that ARod thought putting Jeter on the spot would force this to be dealt with.

If Jeter stays his previous course, IMO, it detracts from his captaincy. However the media, and thus the fans, have their heads so far up Jeter's ass that in their eyes he can never do wrong.

[He Hate Me]

Originally Posted by BudLight

So every Yankee should bow down and kiss A-Rod's ass to help him deal with a sense of belonging. Here's a better idea, hire a hooker with big tits that he can suckle on, maybe that will help with his sense of belonging and his need to be accepted. Fuck A-Rod and his sensitive $250M ego. The Yankees didn't need him when Jeter and crew were winning 4 championships and they don't need him now. He's the last in a long line of ego maniacs to wear the pinstripes. IMHO, the sooner he leaves the better the "team" will be for it.

If ARod is being genuine about this (and I suspect for once, he is), then the only egomaniac on display is Jeter. The Yankees dont need to kiss A-Rod's ass, what they do need is for Jeter to man up and move on and accept the fact that this guy is your teammate for better or worse and it's up to you to at least ACKNOWLEDGE the issue instead of keep sweeping it under the rug of "off fild or personal life" bs because that is OBVIOUSLY affecting the team in some way or shape.

[He Hate Me]

Originally Posted by rician blast

And if Jeter was a true "leader" he'd put that ARod comment behind him, if that's truly what fractured their once strong relaitonship. For krist sake, he's pretty immature if he harbors ill-feelings over an Esquire article years ago, especially when the comments were made by a guy who has a habit of saying stuff that lands him in hot water.

He doesn't need to put it behind him, just acknowledge the problem and move on. ARod was like a brother to him at the time, and for him to come out and say those kinds of things in a national aticle is as good as sticking a knife in his back, jeter doesn't have to forgive and forget, what he needs to do is deal with it instead of pretending it doesn't exist, because it just makes everyone damn uncomfortable when they're both in the room.

[BudLight]

So in addition to leading by example with a .317BA, 2000 plus hits, .314 post season BA, 200 hits per year, a rookie of the year, AS and WS MVP, 3 Gold Gloves, 1 silver slugger and appearing in the league MVP voting top 10 six times - he now needs to open up his personal life to the media and the fans and embrace A-Rod. Yeah, that's a great idea, let the media start spewing their BS about his personal life then the whole left side of the infield will be focused on what the media is doing and saying instead of concentrating on winning another championship.

[Optimist]

I'm really starting to wish we had just traded this guy.

[a700hitter]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

I dont give a flying fuck if Jeter is taking ARod wife out for sushima then double teams her with David Wells. The late 70s teams HATED each other. Just win a fucking series and stop being an overly sensitive bitch about it (directed at ARod).

I am on the same page with you. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion. ARod is acting like a whining wimp and Jeter is behaving like a petty schoolboy. They both need to grow up. We all knew that ARod was a self-absorbed whining wimp. The surprise here is Jeter's behavior. He has not acted like the consummate professional and team player that he is portrayed as being in his press clippings. He has not be magnanimous or supportive towards ARod. He has not comported himself in a manner that would be expected of a team captain. Captain Intangibles...not!

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Originally Posted by a700hitter

The surprise here is Jeter's behavior. He has not acted like the consummate professional and team player that he is portrayed as being in his press clippings. He has not be magnanimous or supportive towards ARod. He has not comported himself in a manner that would be expected of a team captain. Captain Intangibles...not!

I disagree. Jeter is refusing to talk about it and get involved in the soap opera. He is strictly about business and winning a championship, and won't say anything that detracts from those goals. That says 'consummate professional' and 'team player' to me...

[One Red Seat]

Originally Posted by 26 Reasons to Hate Us

He is strictly about business and winning a championship, and won't say anything that detracts from those goals. That says 'consummate professional' and 'team player' to me....

Nor will he say the magic words that make all this go away, which has me thinking that you couldn't be further from the truth. He came out an publically said the fans should stop booing Giambi. A year later, when it's ARod in question, the line is that it's not his job to tell the fans how to cheer. No consistency of point there, which means a rift exists, and he's not professional enough to ignore it for the good of the team.

[a700hitter]

Originally Posted by 26 Reasons to Hate Us

I disagree. Jeter is refusing to talk about it and get involved in the soap opera. He is strictly about business and winning a championship, and won't say anything that detracts from those goals. That says 'consummate professional' and 'team player' to me...

You are out on a limb on this one.

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Originally Posted by a700hitter

You are out on a limb on this one.

I don't think it's too far fetched. I mean, would it be better if he talked about how he really felt about A-rod? How would that help the situation? If anything, it would make matters worse for the team by creating all kinds of tension in the clubhouse and a season-long media frenzy on this soap opera instead of how the team is doing. It would be a huge distraction. While I agree with ORS that it would be better if he would just come out and support him, I think the path he is taking is still a professional one, and perhaps a middle road between the other two options.