Pavano and Moose head to DL

[bosoxnation07]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6681432

Now 3/5 of the NYY starting rotaion is sitting on the DL, Wang will be back before the other two, With all these injuries I guess we will see how deep the pitching staff is. BP is going to get burned up ealry this season, and Jacko I hate to keep score, but here are a couple more guys you said wouldn't see the DL and they landed on it... But NY got a good enough offense to keep games within reach.

[jacksonianmarch]

already posted in the general section.

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by bosoxnation07

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6681432

Now 3/5 of the NYY starting rotaion is sitting on the DL, Wang will be back before the other two, With all these injuries I guess we will see how deep the pitching staff is. BP is going to get burned up ealry this season, and Jacko I hate to keep score, but here are a couple more guys you said wouldn't see the DL and they landed on it... But NY got a good enough offense to keep games within reach.

I actually said that Mussina and Pavano would see the DL at some point this yr. It is nearly a foregone conclusion. I just didnt think they would be on the DL when Wang and Karstens were on the DL as well.

And to this point the depth has been challenged, no doubt. But we are still holding back. Chase Wright is our hottest minor league pitcher in terms of performance. In terms of his ranking, he is pretty low mostly due to his lack of power stuff. But he is already on the 40 man roster, so we didnt have to waive anyone for this one start. If Cashman was simply going for this win and was going to use the best he has, Hughes is pitching in the rotation already with Clippard not far behind. But both would have to be added to the 40 man one to two yrs before they absolutely need to be.

And bsn, over our last 5 games in which our starts did not go down with an injury (Moose game in Minny excluded), our rotation has thrown 30.2IP, for an average of slightly over 6IP per start. It just seems like our pen has worked so much because we had 7 innings of extra frames.

Once we get our full complement of starting pitchers back, our rotation will be less of a mess. As I have said before, you cannot quantify what CMW means to us in terms of his durability. On any given night, his pitch counts are usually so low that he can be stretched to 7-8 innings if need be. He is the only pitcher in our rotation who has that versatility.

[Mr Crunchy]

f u c k e d
now what
the golden boy savior had a suck spring and they wont fuck with his development so they bring up someone who they couldnt get a bag of baseballs for
generally this is the guy who surprises us all and wins 15 for ny
see aaron smalll and boogaloo chacon as well as the unheralded wang tung for evidence of this phenonemon
suck or washed up never weres showing up with the yanks on the ropes and blam
they turn into cy young material

however
i fear this may be too much too soon
pettitte and igawa??
come on

and the defense??
simply atrocious,gotta be the worst in baseball
and the bullpen??
2 multi run leads blown in oakland this weekend
and 1 huge win

the sox starters have been fairly consistant if not dominant
good thing its april for ny fans

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

f u c k e d
now what
the golden boy savior had a suck spring and they wont fuck with his development so they bring up someone who they couldnt get a bag of baseballs for
generally this is the guy who surprises us all and wins 15 for ny
see aaron smalll and boogaloo chacon as well as the unheralded wang tung for evidence of this phenonemon
suck or washed up never weres showing up with the yanks on the ropes and blam
they turn into cy young material

however
i fear this may be too much too soon
pettitte and igawa??
come on

and the defense??
simply atrocious,gotta be the worst in baseball
and the bullpen??
2 multi run leads blown in oakland this weekend
and 1 huge win

the sox starters have been fairly consistant if not dominant
good thing its april for ny fans

one big lead blown by the pen. The other was blown in part by Igawa.

As for our pitching, Wright is not a has been or a never was. He is a 24 yr old prospect. Small and Chacon are has beens and never were's.

As for Hughes, he had 2 lackluster performances in the spring, dominated in AAA spring after the demotion, was dominant in his first start and sucked in his second. If you look at Hughes track record, he has struggled for about 5 starts every time he was promoted. Then he kicks it in.

Now as for when he gets the callup, if any of these injuries that are befalling us were season long, Hughes would be getting the call. But as it is, we are weathering the storm rather nicely and we may only need this kid for one start. As I have said before, we suck in april. It is in our blood, so if we get these injuries out of the way now, we will be alright come May 1. To this point, we should have our entire projected rotation by the last series with you guys and from then on, it will be on.

I am not worried to this point. Wang back in 10 days, Mussina back in 10 days (his 15 day DL stint was retroactive), Pavano back in 14 days. Karstens back in 5 days. Nothing long term. And with 2 off days in 5 scheduled days and a deluge of epic proportions hitting the northeast, I would assume we get another off soon enough. Dont count us out yet.

[Mr Crunchy]

even when they come back there are questions
seriously
pavano and mussina are sisters
igawa so far blows,wang has been awesone but 2 of 3yrs hes on the dl
usually guys who get dl'd in april struggle
see schilling clement pavano and kevin brown for examples...
proctor and farnsworth??
come on
didnt they blow a 3 run lead friday and a 2 run lead with 2 out 2strikes yesterday??

you really need to be optimistic because from where im sitting theyre fucked
for your benefit its still april

[BudLight]

Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

even when they come back there are questions
seriously
pavano and mussina are sisters
igawa so far blows,wang has been awesone but 2 of 3yrs hes on the dl
usually guys who get dl'd in april struggle
see schilling clement pavano and kevin brown for examples...
proctor and farnsworth??
come on
didnt they blow a 3 run lead friday and a 2 run lead with 2 out 2strikes yesterday??

you really need to be optimistic because from where im sitting theyre fucked
for your benefit its still april

Actually Mo blew the game yesterday. He tubed an 0-2 pitch to power hitting Marco Scutaro (.095 BA) who buried it for a 3 run homer. Very uncharasteric of Mo. The starting pitching is in shambles, good thing it's only April.

[VA Sox Fan]

Scutaro's walk off was a thing of beauty!

The Mousse and Carla Pavana are on the DL? Imagine that.....

[Mr Crunchy]

bb
i had over 8.5 in the yanks game yesterday,pretty heavy i may add
i wait for this team to sink every spring and this year is no exception

this may be too much too soon
maybe mrs farnsworth can start

[example1]

I think that those of (us) you who are trying to ride Jacksonian about Philip Hughes could end up looking foolish. He may not be quite ready yet, but he's VERY young and has had a tremendous track record thus far. I'm pretty sure we'll be getting to know this kid of a long, long time.

[bosoxnation07]

I just like giving Jacko a hard time! Now if it was us that had all these pitchers on the DL Jacko would be telling us to hang it up we are finished no matter if it is April or not.

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

even when they come back there are questions
seriously
pavano and mussina are sisters
igawa so far blows,wang has been awesone but 2 of 3yrs hes on the dl
usually guys who get dl'd in april struggle
see schilling clement pavano and kevin brown for examples...
proctor and farnsworth??
come on
didnt they blow a 3 run lead friday and a 2 run lead with 2 out 2strikes yesterday??

you really need to be optimistic because from where im sitting theyre fucked
for your benefit its still april

Wrong on both counts. Igawa left with a 4-3 lead and Farns blew it by allowing 1 run.

And yesterday, Mo had his typical april gaffe.

I have actually been advocating moving Farns to middle relief until he gets his stuff back. When he is on, he is completely untouchable. But when he is off, he is unwatchable. Right now he fits into the second category and I dont want to see leads in the 7th and 8th wasted so he can get his kinks out. We have a plethora of strong relievers who can take his place. Proctor looked very strong yesterday. Vizcaino and Bruney have been horses out there and Henn is pitching very well out of relief. Our pen will need to hold together a little longer.

As for Wang on the DL, his previous problems were shoulder and elbow. A hammy happens and it seems to be happening in increasing frequency on this team. I dont worry about those kinds of injuries.

The only 2 injuries I am worried about are Karstens and Pavano. Karstens had elbow stiffness, but he checked out okay and will return soon. But that bears serious watching. And anytime a pitcher leaves with forearm tightness, I immediately think tendon or ligament. Sometimes forearm pain is a sign of UCL damage and hence TJ surgery. Other times it is a strained muscle in the forearm and boy are there a lot of them. And with Pussano's history, I would not be surprised if he is out for an extended period of time. As for Mussina and Wang, they'll be back very soon and will be fine.

[bosoxnation07]

Don't you get TJ from years of wear and tear on the elbow? Since when has Pavano had any kind of extended wear and tear? LOL

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by bosoxnation07

Don't you get TJ from years of wear and tear on the elbow? Since when has Pavano had any kind of extended wear and tear? LOL

lots of jerkin.

[bosoxnation07]

Must be something liket hat because he hasn't pitched enough for it to be baseball related LOL