Torre must go

[Papelbon58]

I was going to say you guys were crazy, because I was going to say that he may not be the best, but there isn't anyone better available. Then I remembered that Joe Girardi is sitting around waiting for this and, well, yeah.

[Gom]

Boston MVP:

JOE TORRE

People forget that the Yankees had the lead going into the 7th in two of the three games. He can't match up period.

I am disgusted.

[kyahbean]

I never liked Torre anyway. How can you like a guy that never smiles even when his team is winning a pennant?

[Coco's Disciples]

Originally Posted by Gom

Boston MVP:

JOE TORRE

People forget that the Yankees had the lead going into the 7th in two of the three games. He can't match up period.

I am disgusted.

Throw the runs off Mariano Rivera out the window right? So we don't get any credit for beating you?

[Gom]

Originally Posted by Coco's Disciples

Throw the runs off Mariano Rivera out the window right? So we don't get any credit for beating you?

For the 257th time, I gave your team credit. You know, as a manager, you can only make the right moves. Now, if you get beat with your best, that's one thing. However, Torre doesn't make the right moves. So the fact of the matter remains that Torre doesn't make the moves needed to win.

Example: The Sox come back on Sunday, so Tito leaves Matsuzaka in to face Arod. That was the right move. Arod gets a hit, so he is gone.

If Torre's pitchers had a 7-2 lead going into the 7th, its time to take him out. It's like Torre thinks his starters will spontaneously combust if they go into the 7th inning, even if they have a 264 run lead.

Torre burns his pen in games he WINS for no reason, and the bullpen is ineffective in games he LOSES. Coincidence? No freaking way.

[schillingouttheks]

Originally Posted by kyahbean

I never liked Torre anyway. How can you like a guy that never smiles even when his team is winning a pennant?

I know, really...he just cries.

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by Gom

For the 257th time, I gave your team credit. You know, as a manager, you can only make the right moves. Now, if you get beat with your best, that's one thing. However, Torre doesn't make the right moves. So the fact of the matter remains that Torre doesn't make the moves needed to win.

Example: The Sox come back on Sunday, so Tito leaves Matsuzaka in to face Arod. That was the right move. Arod gets a hit, so he is gone.

If Torre's pitchers had a 7-2 lead going into the 7th, its time to take him out. It's like Torre thinks his starters will spontaneously combust if they go into the 7th inning, even if they have a 264 run lead.

Torre burns his pen in games he WINS for no reason, and the bullpen is ineffective in games he LOSES. Coincidence? No freaking way.

Gom, likely one of your strongest posts and one of my biggest pet peeves about Torre. In one of the games vs Cleveland when we had a 9-2 lead, he brought in Proctor to reliever Igawa, who was at 92 pitches through 6. The same Proctor who needs to have a new arm attached by the AS break. He refuses to stretch out his starters.

[inkman]

Did anyone think Petitte coming out of the bully was a good idea? Should that be on Joe?

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Originally Posted by inkman

Did anyone think Petitte coming out of the bully was a good idea? Should that be on Joe?

It saved the pen an inning, and Pettitte only had to throw 9 pitches. It was fine with me. But I think everyone's point is that it shouldn't have to come to that. Torre should rest the pen more so that on days where you need them, like when Chase gives up 4 homers in a row, they will be more effective.

[26 Reasons to Hate Us]

Originally Posted by Papelbon58

I was going to say you guys were crazy, because I was going to say that he may not be the best, but there isn't anyone better available. Then I remembered that Joe Girardi is sitting around waiting for this and, well, yeah.

I thought Donald Baseball was in line for the job next year?

[Papelbon58]

Originally Posted by 26 Reasons to Hate Us

I thought Donald Baseball was in line for the job next year?

He may be but that would be a stupid move on their part.

[TGov]

Originally Posted by Papelbon58

I was going to say you guys were crazy, because I was going to say that he may not be the best, but there isn't anyone better available. Then I remembered that Joe Girardi is sitting around waiting for this and, well, yeah.

O Ya Girardi, I forgot about him, why was he let go again?

[Gom]

I would take Girardi over Donnie Baseball as a manager at this point. Girardi is a proven commodity, but when you come to think of it, Willie Randolph wasn't proven, and he has done a decent job so far. Torre's staff has moved on to managing, with Mazzilli [at the time] Girardi, Randolph, etc.

Shame is that the weakest link in the Yankee coaching staff is the man who calls the shots.

Why can't he have a non-life threatening ailment that will keep him from coaching for the rest of the year? Something like syphillis in an early stage?

[Gom]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Gom, likely one of your strongest posts and one of my biggest pet peeves about Torre. In one of the games vs Cleveland when we had a 9-2 lead, he brought in Proctor to reliever Igawa, who was at 92 pitches through 6. The same Proctor who needs to have a new arm attached by the AS break. He refuses to stretch out his starters.

I have been validated by the immortal jacksonianmarch

DO YOU HEAR THAT HEATHENS?

LOL! I can't even take a compliment well. Jacks, you watch the games, you know he burns them out even when he wins.

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by Gom

LOL! I can't even take a compliment well. Jacks, you watch the games, you know he burns them out even when he wins.

and it burns me on the inside. Even last yr when we got 6+ regularly from our top 3, he somehow managed to set record with his usage of Proctor.