Torre must go - Page 6 - Talksox

jacksonianmarch · 04-30-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rician blast

So I guess Torre is responsible for Mussina's hammy? And pavano's vaginitis? And karsten's fibula?

While we're at it, it's his fault that Mienkxxxx is hitting about .150.
Torre is at fault for Damon's .229 BA.
He's the cause of Matsui's .207 BA.
What's up with Rivera and his 1 save and approx. 10.00 era? Gotta be Torre's doing.

You fkn guys kill me. The guy was blessed for years with all the pieces needed to win and when they did he got tons of credit. Now, with a pitching staff that rivals the KC Royals, and an offense that's underachieving, it's all his fault.

Baseball is a game of ups and downs, the Yanks are down right now, but they're never out, not in April. That being the case, don't you want the guy that "managed" your team to 4 WCs and many a playoff appearance at the helm?

CF, when you watch the games on an individual basis, you can see his mistakes.

First of all, part of this pitching problem is his doing. He has used the pen wasy too much this yr. He utterly refuses to allow pitchers to go deeper into games. So even our wins are taxing on the pen.

ANiMAL · 04-30-2007, 01:19 PM

I swear at about 9PM every night i check to see if the Yanks are losing, and it always seems to be the 6th inning with Proctor in. I think Torre gets head from Proctor or something because i dont think he is that good to pitch 5 of every 7 days. Realistically he has made 15 appearences in 23 games. At this rate he'll be overworked by the end of May. He's also going to make approxiamtely 105 appearences this season. I think the overwork of Proctor is Torre's biggest fault.
Another knock on Torre, I'm sure any one member on talksox could manage the Yankees in the same timeframe Torre has and also won 4 World Series.

Gom · 04-30-2007, 01:22 PM

Exactly.

ANiMAL · 04-30-2007, 01:25 PM

It's not hard to think in the mind of a Yankee, especially because I am surrounded by tons of them.

MANNYHOF24 · 04-30-2007, 03:34 PM

Steinbrenner: I believe in Joe Torre, per ESPNEWS.

redsoxrules · 04-30-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

CF, when you watch the games on an individual basis, you can see his mistakes.

First of all, part of this pitching problem is his doing. He has used the pen wasy too much this yr. He utterly refuses to allow pitchers to go deeper into games. So even our wins are taxing on the pen.

well the reason he is going to the pen early in games is because the starters have been sucking big time , with the exception of a few games .

jacksonianmarch · 04-30-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MANNYHOF24

Steinbrenner: I believe in Joe Torre, per ESPNEWS.

punch me in face now.

**yeszir** · 04-30-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

punch me in face now.

Give me your address, I'd be happy to oblige.

rician blast · 04-30-2007, 05:08 PM

Jacks, I know you've been a Torre detractor even in years when they've been very successful and run away with the division...you've consistently stated that Torre is not a great in-game manager...so my comments aren't directed towards you. You've been very consistent in that regard.

I'm not claiming that Torre IS a good manager..I'm simply pointing out that many Yankee fans thought he was the greatest manager ever when they were dominant and now a month into the 2007 season, they say he sucks. Seems a bit hypocritical, and again, my comment is not towards ALL Yankee fans.

VA Sox Fan · 04-30-2007, 11:25 PM

As others have said.....how can you fire someone over injuries? Yank fans should be thankful it's (almost) May and not August, when the Sox were plagued with injuries last season (DUH?!?!)

This start may/will be difficult for them (or any team) to overcome. The pitchers arms are gonna fall off at this rate. Of course, I love it, but miss the competition.

Seriously though, it's early.

Torre is overated and even the YES ballwashers are questioning his moves during the game. Cashman should have advised everyone that this is a re-building season. But w/ the Yankees, you never know, it's early.

Mr Crunchy · 05-01-2007, 09:31 AM

did anyone see rivera in the 9th inning down 7-4 friday nite??
torre got him some work
he probably threw 30 pitches in 1/3ip with 4earned
the nite b4 down 6-0 proctor is in??

he sucks
ive been saying this for 10 years
he had several chances to manage and failed at every occasion with the exception of the team he inherited from bucky showalter and gene michael,this current team, favored 6 years in a row to win it all,has failed miserably and with the gross difference in payrolls someone should have fallen on the sword for this classic underachievment