2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch - Page 2 - Talksox

AlexanderTheGreat13 · 06-09-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by riverside sluggers

In 2005 did the Sox have as good a rotation or bullpen to squander the lead so easily?

Did you read the "so anythings possible" part?

riverside sluggers · 06-09-2007, 09:22 PM

What was I thinking? The Sox pitching will crumble like a game of Jenga

Gom · 06-10-2007, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by One Red Seat

Your obsession is bordering on pathological. I recommend a 12-step program.

As long as it has 12 ounce drinks, I'm cool with it.

It's just fun poking fun at you. You make it too easy, and take it too personally, I can't help it, lol.

Gom · 06-10-2007, 11:29 AM

Although we didn't gain any ground on the front running Tigers, we have moved up in the list. Only three teams to go. Next on the list, the Angels.

AL WILD CARD
Team GB
Tigers -
Mariners 1 ½
Athletics 2
Yankees 5 ½
Twins 5 ½
Blue Jays 6
Orioles 6 ½
Devil Rays 7 ½
White Sox 7 ½
Rangers 12 ½
Royals 13

With Clippard going today, I don't like our chances, but here's hoping the bats carry them and the Mets do some damage up in Detroit.

Gom · 06-11-2007, 07:25 AM

Once again, no games gained on the top 3. We just have to keep winning.

AL WILD CARD
Team GB
Tigers -
Mariners 1 ½
Athletics 2
Yankees 5 ½
Twins 5 ½
Blue Jays 6
Orioles 7 ½
Devil Rays 7 ½
White Sox 7 ½
Royals 13
Rangers 13 ½

jacksonianmarch · 06-11-2007, 08:25 AM

to be honest with you Gom, it wont matter. If this is the yankee team we will see for the rest of the yr (not winning 9 of every 11, but you know what I mean) then it isnt going to matter. My worry is that one of these SP's is going to be going down with an injury prior to Phenom Phil's return and muck up the works. When you have 4 quality starters and a quality rookie going through his ups and downs, you can win some games. Its when you have to rely on fringe guys in one or more spots that you start to feel the deep burn. And not in a very good area mind you.

TheKilo · 06-11-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

to be honest with you Gom, it wont matter. If this is the yankee team we will see for the rest of the yr (not winning 9 of every 11, but you know what I mean) then it isnt going to matter. My worry is that one of these SP's is going to be going down with an injury prior to Phenom Phil's return and muck up the works. When you have 4 quality starters and a quality rookie going through his ups and downs, you can win some games. Its when you have to rely on fringe guys in one or more spots that you start to feel the deep burn. And not in a very good area mind you.

Yep, good luck counting on Hughes 2 months from now.

Gom · 06-12-2007, 01:09 AM

Truth be told, when Mussina is your number 4, you are in good shape. They can make do with a number five, or go get an innings eater before the deadline. Hughes is a non-issue, and to tell you the truth, if there is any truth to the Texiera for Hughes deal, I would do it in a heartbeat.

jacksonianmarch · 06-12-2007, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gom

Truth be told, when Mussina is your number 4, you are in good shape. They can make do with a number five, or go get an innings eater before the deadline. Hughes is a non-issue, and to tell you the truth, if there is any truth to the Texiera for Hughes deal, I would do it in a heartbeat.

and thank you for not putting your name in the GM hat. Tex is overrated and Hughes is likely to be a top of the rotation pitcher for us for a long time.

Gom · 06-12-2007, 01:11 AM

With the Mariners coming back to win after blowing a seven run lead, not much has changed with most teams being off. The Yankees remain within striking distance.

AL WILD CARD
Team GB
Tigers -
Mariners 1
Athletics 2
Yankees 5 ½
Twins 5 ½
Blue Jays 6
Orioles 7 ½
Devil Rays 7 ½
White Sox 8
Royals 13
Rangers 13 ½

Gom · 06-12-2007, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

and thank you for not putting your name in the GM hat. Tex is overrated and Hughes is likely to be a top of the rotation pitcher for us for a long time.

Seriously Jacko, get off this kid's jock. He may turn out to be something, or he may be nothing. The majority of prospects turn out to be average players. If you can get an All-Star player who is a Gold Glover at his position at your current weak spot, you do it. The kid comes out, pulls his hamstring, and is out until September. Teixera can be a huge difference maker.

Now, I'm not saying that this deal WILL happen. To dismiss this out of hand, though is crazy. I am of the firm belief that you make a run to win today if you have the horses. I've heard you say you wouldn't trade this kid for anyone outside of Santana, Halliday, etc.

I couldn't stop laughing. At his best, if everything goes right, he MAY end up somewhere around that class of pitcher. More than likely he won't.

Can he be something special? Of course. Will he be? Maybe, I'll even give you probably. Is he worth a bona-fide All-Star today for you to make a run? I would say that you would have to entertain the idea, considering that he is injured, and if Arod leaves, it could be a couple of years before we unseat the Sox at the top of the AL East. I mean without Arod, just where does our offense come from? Jeter batting cleanup?

HeadOfSoxNation · 06-12-2007, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gom

Now, I'm not saying that this deal WILL happen. To dismiss this out of hand, though is crazy. I am of the firm belief that you make a run to win today if you have the horses. I've heard you say you wouldn't trade this kid for anyone outside of Santana, Halliday, etc.

I can't see, in my wildest dreams, why anyone wouldn't deal a prospect for any ace under 30...not even counting Santana. I'd include Hughes in deals for any of the following, among others in no particular order:

1.) Brandon Webb
2.) Dan Haren
3.) Scott Kazmir
4.) Carlos Zambrano
5.) Jake Peavy
6.) Josh Beckett

That's not just me being a Sox fan...I'd trade any of our prospects for these guys as well...you've gotta look at the risk over the reward:

You're betting, by turning down those deals, that your prospect is going to be as good or better than those guys? The odds of him turning out to be BETTER is slim to none...so the only thing you have to GAIN is maybe 4 or 5 years which, in today's era of free agency, may prove insignificant. Plus, in trading them, you're still getting a young guy, but a guy who is beyond the learning phase and a bonafide big-league hurler...a process that takes a year or two with 99% of guys.

jacksonianmarch · 06-12-2007, 01:34 AM

No on Kazmir or Zambrano.

Gom · 06-12-2007, 01:42 AM

I'm laughing again.

I hope Hughes fulfills all you think he is Jacko. I am a Yankee fan, after all. However, if he doesn't, you are going to look really foolish.

Here's to hoping you look like a genius.

HeadOfSoxNation · 06-12-2007, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

No on Kazmir or Zambrano.

Wow, really? I could see maybe saying no to Zambrano...but Kazmir? Why? Just the injuries? Look at the numbers this guy has put up...he hasn't had an ERA above 4 since he became a regular in the best division in baseball.

What about Victor Zambrano? Then do you do it?

hahaha