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06-12-2007, 01:46 AM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
Injuries and lack of command.
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06-12-2007, 01:47 AM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
The guy's career WHIP is north of 1.42. This year, it's touching 1.49.
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06-12-2007, 01:54 AM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
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Originally Posted by CrespoBlows
The guy's career WHIP is north of 1.42. This year, it's touching 1.49.
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He's 23...and he's always had to nibble. He's played in Tampa where, until recently, giving up 2 runs would get him a loss...
Get him some work with a good pitching coach and onto a team where he'll get some serious run-support and he's a bonafide ace.
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06-12-2007, 02:00 AM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
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Originally Posted by HeadOfSoxNation
He's 23...and he's always had to nibble. He's played in Tampa where, until recently, giving up 2 runs would get him a loss...
Get him some work with a good pitching coach and onto a team where he'll get some serious run-support and he's a bonafide ace.
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Give Hughes some Major League time and he could be a bona fide ace.
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06-12-2007, 02:06 AM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
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Give Hughes some Major League time and he could be a bona fide ace.
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So we agree that they both need some work...but do you think that an unrefined Kazmir is better than an unrefined Hughes? I do.
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06-12-2007, 08:42 AM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
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So we agree that they both need some work...but do you think that an unrefined Kazmir is better than an unrefined Hughes? I do.
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No. Hughes has all of Kazmir's stuff with control. Give him time. He was throwing a frieking no hitter in his second start for god sakes. And this wasnt a Bud Smith all contact no-no. He had these guys baffled the entire game.
And no I dont think Hughes is an ace, RIGHT NOW. But he very well could be a middle of the rotation type pitcher and could be an ace in the very near future. People dont seem to like him because the hardest he'll hit on a night is 96 or 97. I just dont get it. Maybe he looks too young to be good?
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06-12-2007, 11:00 PM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
dont look now, but the Indians are in a free fall. They are now tied with the tigers for 1st in the central and 1st in the WC. But the Indians have lost 3 in a row, 7 of 10, and 9 of 15. I have said before and I'll say it again. The Indians dont have staying power. The Tigers do.
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06-12-2007, 11:48 PM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
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dont look now, but the Indians are in a free fall. They are now tied with the tigers for 1st in the central and 1st in the WC. But the Indians have lost 3 in a row, 7 of 10, and 9 of 15. I have said before and I'll say it again. The Indians dont have staying power. The Tigers do.
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I've actually been scoreboard watching Cleveland more than Detroit in the last two weeks.
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06-13-2007, 12:30 AM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
The A's just lost in extra innings to the Astros.
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06-13-2007, 03:34 AM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
Well, with the Sox winning and Verlander throwing a no-hitter, the Yankees haven't gained ground on either the division or the wild-card. However, with the Indians slumping, the Yankees only need to beat out the loser of the AL Central. Here is the wild card standings as we speak:
AL WILD CARD
Team GB
Indians -
Tigers -
Mariners 1
Athletics 3
Yankees 5 ½
Twins 5 ½
Blue Jays 7 ½
Devil Rays 7 ½
Orioles 8 ½
White Sox 9
Royals 13
Rangers 14 ½
Only 2 1/2 games to catch the A's.
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06-13-2007, 11:07 AM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
the A's arent going anywhere.
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06-14-2007, 08:54 AM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
Figured I would chip in:
Detroit 37 27 .578 -
Seattle 35 27 .565 1.0
Oakland 35 29 .547 2.0
Minnesota 32 31 .508 4.5
NY Yankees 32 31 .508 4.5
Toronto 31 34 .477 6.5
Gained a game on Detroit and Seattle
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06-14-2007, 12:42 PM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
Chip in buddy. Hopefully the Sox are hearing footsteps.
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06-14-2007, 05:29 PM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
Detroit lost 6-5. Oakland and Houston are tied 5-5 in the sixth. Seattle is leading Chicago 4-3 in the eighth.
EDIT: Two RBI hit for Izturis and the Cubs take a 6-5 lead.
EDIT: Cubbies win!
Last edited by yankees228; 06-14-2007 at 06:02 PM.
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06-15-2007, 05:46 AM
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Re: 2007 Unofficial Yankees Wild Card Watch
Slowly, but surely, the Yankees are climbing the ladder. At the end of today, here is the updated wild card standings, with us gaining a game on the Tigers and Mariners [and also the Sox].
AL WILD CARD
Team GB
Tigers -
Mariners 1
Athletics 1
Yankees 3 ½
Twins 3 ½
Blue Jays 6
Devil Rays 7 ½
Orioles 8 ½
White Sox 8 ½
Royals 12
Rangers 13 ½
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