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YAZMAN · 10-11-2007, 12:04 PM

BTW, what's up, BB?

BudLight · 10-11-2007, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by YAZMAN

BTW, what's up, BB?

Not much going on here Yaz. Just waiting for St. Louis to get a football team in the dome. On that note:

(From St. Louis, MO) - A seven-year old boy was at the center of a St.
Louis County courtroom drama this morning, when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him. The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law and regulation requiring that family unity be maintained to the highest degree possible.
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> > The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat
> > him
more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge then suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried and said that they also beat him. After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him.
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> > After two recesses to check legal references and confer with the
> > child welfare officials, the judge granted temporary custody to the St.
Louis Rams, whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone.

rician blast · 10-11-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

(have you seen the pic), I dont think he is coming back. He was the last to leave the dugout as he essentially just looked around the field, at the fans, all over.

Could just be that he knew or assumed that the camera was on him...he's pretty dramatic, you know, and could have had a fine career as an actor, perhaps playing a preening, prime-time, self-absorbed, self-important athlete, who, during the playoffs, fails to come through in the clutch.

Oh wait...that's real life.

jacksonianmarch · 10-11-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rician blast

Could just be that he knew or assumed that the camera was on him...he's pretty dramatic, you know, and could have had a fine career as an actor, perhaps playing a preening, prime-time, self-absorbed, self-important athlete, who, during the playoffs, fails to come through in the clutch.

Oh wait...that's real life.

or they could have thrown a wig on him and done a lifetime special of the shemale who is never appreciated as much as heshe thinks heshe should be.

rician blast · 10-11-2007, 04:00 PM

Either way, Jacks, he'd pull it off cuz "the camera loves him".

Gom · 10-11-2007, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Gom, they are old guys who could fall off the map at any point. The only guy who would be leaving who I'd really want back (ARod) may be leaving anyway.

Also, I do know the percentage. About half of all first rounders make it to the majors. BUT, with the current draft structure, who says we need to take guys who are the 16th best with the 16th pick. Remember, we have been drafting guys who are much, much better than their draft positions for 3 yrs now since we have invested more money than anyone in the draft. If you increase the picks but continually pluck the expensive, top tier players, you arent just getting first round talent, you are getting superstar talent later in the draft. This wouldnt be drafting a tweener late in the first round. This would be drafting a guy who should be going top 3 but fell 15 spots due to salary demands.

You don't give up talent at the major league level, ALL-STAR TALENT, for a draft pick. EVER. End of discussion.

jacksonianmarch · 10-11-2007, 04:23 PM

It is 2 draft picks and it is all star talent at the end of their careers. You cannot sit there and tell me that these guys are going to be all star talent next yr. This worries me. If this was Mo at 30, then hell yeah I resign him. But this is Mo at 38, this is Posada at 37. Father time will catch up with both of them eventually and sooner rather than later.

Gom · 10-11-2007, 06:14 PM

Stop smoking crack Jacko. These are All-Star players. For the 1 millionth time, we are not the Kansas City Royals.

jacksonianmarch · 10-13-2007, 12:13 AM

You are right. The KC royals continually pick in the top 5 but draft late round talent for signability purposes. Then they dont sign outside talent and continually fail with the farm system that a team like the yankees should have, ie a team that choose late in rounds every yr. We dont have to go the Royals route. If you cherry pick the best players out of one draft, sign them all above slot, then you will develop a bunch of major league players and who knows, maybe an all star here and there. I just dont like the idea of locking in long term on a deal with a 37 yr old catcher and a closer who will be in his 40s when the deal he wants would finish. Take the picks, build from within and cherry pick the FAs available when needed. Hell, I'll give up the yankees #28 pick for F. Cordero (who is 6 yrs younger than Mo) lose Mo via FA and gain a mid 1st round pick and a sandwich pick.

Mr Crunchy · 10-13-2007, 12:33 AM

some will stay some will go
and ny will compete next year with the young uns and a better mussina
kei igawa may produce better too

jacksonianmarch · 10-13-2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

some will stay some will go
and ny will compete next year with the young uns and a better mussina
kei igawa may produce better too

I have a feeling Igawa gets converted to relief. He was very good in his first inning of work and always seemed to start strong, then get figured out later in the game. I'd put him and Rasner in the long slots and then fill the rest of the pen accordingly. Part of what killed us was having nobody slated to go a few innings out of the pen. Torre always went his set route regardless of the score and it burned out our pen.

Mr Crunchy · 10-13-2007, 12:42 AM

its hardly hopeless over there
this fucking drama is the problem

jacksonianmarch · 10-13-2007, 10:09 AM

The drama needs to end. I just want to know, is he or isnt he coming back. People always seem to try and blame it on the players and whathaveyou. But his teams the past few seasons have crossed the finish line absolutely exhausted and it mostly has to do with his bullpen management.

AlexanderTheGreat13 · 10-13-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

the above guys are all done my man
damon is a catalyst who cant do it every day anymore
jetsey is a 325 banjo hitter with limited range at short
mussina is a middle reliever albeit expensive and giambi and matsui are just plain finished
they should tank for a year..

the sox used to religously lead baseball in runs scored
i bet in the 86 years they failed they led baseball in scoring more than any other team
the rangers took over that mantle a few years back and they accomplished nothing either

its still pitching,always will be
softball teams never win and we here in boston know this better than most
christ
we had butch hobson hit 30hrs in the 9 hole 1 summer and didnt make the playoffs

Well Jeter isn't done, Matsui hit 25 hr's this year and Damon was better the last 2 months when he was healthy. Both Giambi and Mussina are done. The problem even if they are done or not is getting rid of those contracts and they wont be able to do it. I think going foward the Yankees have Hughes, Chamberlain and Kennedy. I like the future of that staff.

jacksonianmarch · 10-13-2007, 11:55 AM

writing Matsui off is premature at best. The guy hit 25 homers in 3/4 of a season and played the last 2 months with a knee he could barely walk on. If that knee is fixable, he will come back strong. If it isnt (like arthritis), then yeah, he is done.