Lost - Page 13 - Talksox

**schillingouttheks** · 04-15-2008, 09:36 PM

I really doubt Rousseau is dead based on the fact that the producers have said before, I believe, that they promise to have a Rousseau flashback, as well as have her appear in another character's.

Can't wait for next week. I think Jin does die somehow, though I was a bit intrigued that his tombstone had his date of death as the day of the crash.

Soxfan#1 · 04-16-2008, 07:49 PM

They said he died in the crash. Not that hard figure out after hearing Jack on trial.

**schillingouttheks** · 04-16-2008, 11:07 PM

Wait whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat I missed this.

Coco's Disciples · 04-17-2008, 07:15 AM

Well since the day on his grave is Sept 22, 2004 (day of the crash), its safe to assume he never left the island, since people would know him and know the day he died. So hes either alive on the island or died on the island. Either way, the Oceanic 6 aren't telling people about the island, so they would have to say he died in the crash.

Soxfan#1 · 04-18-2008, 07:04 PM

I wouldn't doubt him being alive on the island.

Soxfan#1 · 04-24-2008, 10:26 PM

Live Notes:

I think Ben has teleported to the future.
Is the guy Ben showed to Sayid the guy he killed on the Golf Course? Is Widmore the economist?
Holy shit he shot her.
Ben's got a secret stash. That's how he's communicated with his people.
Why did Sayid tell Danielle that Nadia was dead?
I think this is the beginning of Ben's official turn to the good side. This also defines the economist episode more clearly
The monster is so amazing. It's so intimidating. Looks like Ben does have control of it after all.
I <3 Bernard.
The Doc hasn't died yet in the Ship's world. He'll die next epi.
I hope Jack realizes that he needs to work with Locke and Ben.
Maybe this is what Hurley meant by I'm sorry I went with Locke. Maybe there will be reprocussions to the meeting with Jacob.
What is that weapon with Ben?
London=Widmore?
These writers are so genius.
By was I think Widmore was high up in Dharma. Once Ben and the hostiles took over they pretty much snowglobed the island and took it away from Widmore.

Me and SOTK talked. When they went to the Ben flash forwards, they didn't do that that normal WHOOSH sound. They didn't do that for Desmond's teleportation either. I think that confirms Ben is teleporting. Thats why he asked the date to the woman. Widmore is his constant. That's why he said you and I both know I can't do that when Widmore asked if Ben was going to kill him because killing Widmore would kill Ben since he is his constant.

BUT IF BEN KILLS PENNY, HE WILL KILL DESMOND SINCE SHE IS HIS CONSTANT!!!!!! THESE WRITERS ARE GODS.

Cityofchampions33 · 04-25-2008, 01:00 AM

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BUT IF BEN KILLS PENNY, HE WILL KILL DESMOND SINCE SHE IS HIS CONSTANT!!!!!! THESE WRITERS ARE GODS.

Isn't the whole constant thing only when you get sick?

ACL BoSox · 04-25-2008, 10:52 AM

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Isn't the whole constant thing only when you get sick?

Who's to say he won't get sick again?

Soxfan#1 · 04-25-2008, 04:34 PM

What do you mean sick?

Coco's Disciples · 04-25-2008, 06:35 PM

Just watched it today. I agree that Ben is traveling in time. Notice he had a Dharma suit in the first FF scene, and it said "Halliwax", the name of the guy in the orientation videos for the hatches. He also goes by Wickmund and Candle. So he probably came right from the island to Tunisia (I think thats where he was). The whole business with Widmore "changing the rules" is interesting. Makes me think this is a game, hence the Risk game.

**schillingouttheks** · 04-25-2008, 07:06 PM

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Just watched it today. I agree that Ben is traveling in time. Notice he had a Dharma suit in the first FF scene, and it said "Halliwax", the name of the guy in the orientation videos for the hatches. He also goes by Wickmund and Candle. So he probably came right from the island to Tunisia (I think thats where he was). The whole business with Widmore "changing the rules" is interesting. Makes me think this is a game, hence the Risk game.

He went to the Sahara Desert before Tunisia. Remember, he kicked those two guys' ASSES.

Widmore is probably Ben's constant, as I pointed out last night in my conversation with soxfan. I don't think the whole constant thing only applies to when you get that "time sickness", I think it just allows you to travel through time under your own control. If you fall sick, you must find a constant to stop the symptoms. That doesn't mean that your constant can't get killed, and you subsequently must seek out a new constant. Anyway, perhaps Ben has figured out how to time travel in a more controlled manner. In addition, when Widmore asks Ben if he is there to kill him, Ben responds with "you and I both know that I can't do that." I don't think Ben can do that because he can't kill his constant, which would result in his own death. They appear to have a very long history ... Widmore probably pops up enough times throughout Ben's history in order to make himself a candidate for Ben's constant, which is why I think he is indeed the constant.

I feel like I saw this coming. I knew Alex was going to die because I thought the story could go into a very interesting direction with Ben trying to avenge her death, as was confirmed in this latest episode. Ben's attempts to kill Penny will bring him into direct conflict with Desmond...but for now, the survivors must team up with the others against a common, greater enemy.

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What do you mean sick?

He means the time sickness that Minkowski and Desmond fell victim to.

What I want to know is ... why the fuck did the Kahana's crew slit the doctor's throat??

Soxfan#1 · 04-25-2008, 08:09 PM

The boat said that nothing was wrong with the doctor. So he is going to die asap on their side you can guess. Why do you think they slit his throat?

**schillingouttheks** · 04-25-2008, 08:27 PM

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The boat said that nothing was wrong with the doctor. So he is going to die asap on their side you can guess. Why do you think they slit his throat?

Oh, right. Time is all fucked up, so he's about to die over there I guess. I would say that Michael slits his throat or something... I don't know. The last we saw the happenings on the Kahana was when Sayid ratted Michael out, so anything happened from there on...

At first though I thought that the people on the boat were lying about the doctor being okay. Now I guess it's reasonable to assume that he just hasn't died yet.

Coco's Disciples · 04-25-2008, 10:13 PM

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He went to the Sahara Desert before Tunisia. Remember, he kicked those two guys' ASSES.

What I want to know is ... why the fuck did the Kahana's crew slit the doctor's throat??

Right, I meant the first scene in the Sahara. And the doctor's death probably has to do with Regina's death etc...perhaps. Maybe he knew too much?

MANNYHOF24 · 05-01-2008, 06:42 PM

I dont think the constant thing has to do with Ben here. My reasoning for this is the fact that I think Ben is actually physically time traveling as opposed to Desmonds mind traveling from one year to the other. I think Ben's time travel has to do with the Orchid station that was realesed this summer. Desmond and Minkoski's minds were flung between realities because of the extreme radation that they had encountered. Maybe I am wrong but those are my thoughts.