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Re: 5/11 @ Twinkies
Over the past 5 years, Mirabelli had averaged 10 passed balls. Before tonight Cash had 4, so he is on pace for a few more than 10, but less runners are taking second base uncontested, so I think he is at least a wash defensively.
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05-11-2008, 09:41 PM
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Re: 5/11 @ Twinkies
Haha i've missed the bowling move
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05-11-2008, 09:43 PM
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That's an unfair and unkind statement. Just because individuals may be tragic victims of Alzheimer's or severely and profoundly learning disabled, we should not accuse them of contributing to our nation's problems with illegal drug abuse.
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These two guy have been like this for 10 years already. I am pretty sure that it must be drugs or just plain and simple stupidity.
I thought Tavarez was going to role the ball to first.
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Re: 5/11 @ Twinkies
This could be a good showcase for JT. Is there anyone on Colorado who can help us this year or is the FO looking for a prospect?
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Over the past 5 years, Mirabelli had averaged 10 passed balls. Before tonight Cash had 4, so he is on pace for a few more than 10, but less runners are taking second base uncontested, so I think he is at least a wash defensively.
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This is a rare case where I concur with your position but I've got to say that the stats disagree with us both. Between passed balls and errors, Cash is almost (not quite) as bad as Josh Bard was in his brief time with Boston.
Subjectively, I think that Kevin Cash is as good as any catcher I've ever seen, including Pudge Rodriguez, Tony Pena, Bob Boone and Jim Sundberg in their primes. The stats don't support that this year for Cash, although they did in 2007. |
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I don't know what's more ugly...
The bases being loaded.
Or Tavarez's face.
Aardsma in the pen.
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05-11-2008, 09:49 PM
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I don't know what's more ugly...
The bases being loaded.
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05-11-2008, 09:53 PM
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Just saw something uglier, another Minnesota run scored.
Fuck let's keep that wheel we had rolling!!
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05-11-2008, 09:54 PM
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Re: 5/11 @ Twinkies
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This is a rare case where I concur with your position but I've got to say that the stats disagree with us both. Between passed balls and errors, Cash is almost (not quite) as bad as Josh Bard was in his brief time with Boston.
Subjectively, I think that Kevin Cash is as good as any catcher I've ever seen, including Pudge Rodriguez, Tony Pena, Bob Boone and Jim Sundberg in their primes. The stats don't support that this year for Cash, although they did in 2007.
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I think it is more rare when you disagree with the stats than when you agree with me.  My positions can often be supported with stats although I rarely get into the depth that you do.
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If we win this game I will quit smoking.
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And the sox are gonna win another WS. There needs to be another big time team in the AL.
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Thanks, Drew!
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I'm going to pick up some smokes for my cousin later, want me to send you some while I'm out? Ha ha.
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If Drew hits something this game other than a weak grounder up one of the baselines Ill eat my entire pack of cigarettes.
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I'm going to pick up some smokes for my cousin later, want me to send you some while I'm out? Ha ha.
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Yes. Marlboro Menthol 100s'.
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Re: 5/11 @ Twinkies
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This could be a good showcase for JT. Is there anyone on Colorado who can help us this year or is the FO looking for a prospect?
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There's nobody who could help that they're planning to trade. The possible exception is Atkins, but he's worth far more than Tavarez.
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