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Re: eric gagne
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In hindsight - is the Gagne trade the worst Theo has made or is it getting Mirabelli back from SD or Arroyo for WMP?
And I know we all were excited when the Gagne trade happened.
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Mirabelli for Bard and Meredith in my book.
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05-04-2008, 06:30 PM
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Re: eric gagne
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Mirabelli for Bard and Meredith in my book.
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05-04-2008, 06:32 PM
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Re: eric gagne
Houston just won the game 8-6 on Hunter Pence's homer in 12th.
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05-04-2008, 06:32 PM
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Re: eric gagne
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Originally Posted by das11209
In hindsight - is the Gagne trade the worst Theo has made or is it getting Mirabelli back from SD or Arroyo for WMP?
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I'll go with the Mirabelli trade.
BTW, anyone look at Arroyo stats in 2008? 8.63 ERA in the NL? Chris Carter might be the best player out of the three.
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Funny isn't it??
I'm so bent right now guys so all I have to say is FUCK the Yankee-haters. 2008 AL East Champs will be the NY Yankees! Quote it, remember it, etch it in stone I don't give a shit we got this nigggasss!
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05-04-2008, 06:35 PM
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Re: eric gagne
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I'll go with the Mirabelli trade.
BTW, anyone look at Arroyo stats in 2008? 8.67 ERA in the NL? Chris Carter might be the best player out of the three.
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Yeah - I think WMP lost his spot in National's line-up.
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05-04-2008, 06:41 PM
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Re: eric gagne
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Originally Posted by das11209
In hindsight - is the Gagne trade the worst Theo has made or is it getting Mirabelli back from SD or Arroyo for WMP?
And I know we all were excited when the Gagne trade happened.
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I wouldn't put arroyo in that discussion , he's awfull |
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05-04-2008, 06:48 PM
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Re: eric gagne
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Yeah - I think WMP lost his spot in National's line-up.
Any idea how Carter is doing in the minors this year?
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Pena started the last three games, before sitting in today's game. He's hitting .364 this month, after coming off the DL with an injury.
The Red Sox probably could have gotten Cueto, or Votto, if they wanted to wait for a prospect.
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Funny isn't it??
I'm so bent right now guys so all I have to say is FUCK the Yankee-haters. 2008 AL East Champs will be the NY Yankees! Quote it, remember it, etch it in stone I don't give a shit we got this nigggasss!
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05-04-2008, 08:16 PM
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Re: eric gagne
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Pena started the last three games, before sitting in today's game. He's hitting .364 this month, after coming off the DL with an injury.
The Red Sox probably could have gotten Cueto, or Votto, if they wanted to wait for a prospect.
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Cueto has cooled down after a sizzling start. |
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05-04-2008, 08:19 PM
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Re: eric gagne
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I wouldn't put arroyo in that discussion , he's awfull
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I don't know. He was very servicable and cost controlled pitcher after he took the hometown discount. We got nothing out of WMP - so far that trade has sucked for us. May be Carter will change it.
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05-04-2008, 09:14 PM
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Re: eric gagne
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I don't know. He was very servicable and cost controlled pitcher after he took the hometown discount. We got nothing out of WMP - so far that trade has sucked for us. May be Carter will change it.
But may be that was the 3rd worst trade for Theo.
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WMP did hit .300 with power in 2006. 
WMP was never a good bench player. Tito insisted on using him that way in 2007, and he sucked at it--when he went to the Nats and started regularly, he was great again despite a late-season injury.
I don't blame Theo for WMP, I blame Tito for misusing him. Furthermore, I'm a big Chris Carter fan if you're talking hitting (not fielding)...the Arroyo trade is not yet over. |
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05-04-2008, 09:53 PM
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Re: eric gagne
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Cueto has cooled down after a sizzling start.
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But hes still a highly regarded prospect with filthy stuff.
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05-05-2008, 12:15 AM
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Re: eric gagne
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But hes still a highly regarded prospect with filthy stuff.
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Volquez is nice too eh?
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05-05-2008, 12:26 AM
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Re: eric gagne
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Volquez is nice too eh?
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Good move by both teams. The Reds had a top flight prospect waiting in the wings, and got a good pitcher in return.
It's too bad that the Reds hired Dusty Baker. Corey Patterson looks great in CF.
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Funny isn't it??
I'm so bent right now guys so all I have to say is FUCK the Yankee-haters. 2008 AL East Champs will be the NY Yankees! Quote it, remember it, etch it in stone I don't give a shit we got this nigggasss!
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05-05-2008, 08:23 AM
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Re: eric gagne
The main reason why I think Gagne trade was A REAL bad idea ( in hindsight of course).
From Rotoworld:
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Engel Beltre went 4-for-5 with a homer and three RBI for low Single-A Clinton on Sunday.
David Murphy and Kason Gabbard have already paid dividends, but Beltre has the most raw talent of the players the Rangers picked up from the Red Sox for Eric Gagne last summer. The 18-year-old is batting .295/.331/.446 in the Midwest League.
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05-05-2008, 11:42 AM
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Re: eric gagne
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The main reason why I think Gagne trade was A REAL bad idea ( in hindsight of course).
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Yeah, because I'm sure you know exactly who Engel Beltre was.
Please, STFU.
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