Bronson Arroyo - Talksox

a700hitter · 08-31-2008, 12:12 AM

Since his low point on June 24th when his record was 4-7 with a 6.52 ERA, he has gone 8-3 with 8 Quality Starts in his last 11 Starts. He has also lowered his ERA for the season by about a 1 1/2 runs. His season record stands at 12-10 with a 5.07 ERA for a really crappy team in a little band box. He's also on pace to surpass 200 innings for the 4th season in a row. He's won 10 or more games in 4 of the last 5 seasons. He's remained a pretty solid back of the rotation guy.

TheKilo · 08-31-2008, 12:32 AM

So what, who cares?

a700hitter · 08-31-2008, 12:41 AM

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So what, who cares?

It clearly interested me so I posted my thought about it. If it didn't interest you, why did you bother to post a reply? There are many of your posts that would fall into the category of zero content or interest, but I don't post a "who cares" response. I wish there was an emoticon available that flip the bird.

rician blast · 08-31-2008, 12:53 AM

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So what, who cares?

I kinda do. I always liked Arroyo and was not pleased when the sox moved him after he accepted a discounted contract in order to stay with the sox.

I'm certainly glad to see him turning things around and having some success.

TheKilo · 08-31-2008, 01:13 AM

He's had 11 good starts in the NL after being terrible for a year and a half, in the NL.

Quinny · 08-31-2008, 11:16 PM

Arroyo had another quality start giving up 2 runs over 7 innings and also added a 2 run double to help his own cause....

a700hitter · 09-01-2008, 12:46 AM

13-10 4.97 ERA. Where is Wily Mo. BTW I supported the trade when it was made, but it reinforced for me that you never trade an accomplished young starter that has won 10+ games a couple of years in a row for a guy who is a position player who is considered a project with raw ability. What was I thinking. I am happy for Arroyo.

TheKilo · 09-01-2008, 01:04 AM

a700 - Do you want Arroyo on this team? What's the point of this thread?

Arroyo's been mediocre for two years.

a700hitter · 09-01-2008, 01:12 AM

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a700 - Do you want Arroyo on this team? What's the point of this thread?

Arroyo's been mediocre for two years.

The point is that when looking at statistics in connection with my various fantasy teams I noticed that he was doing far better than I had expected. I thought I would share the information on this forum. I thought it might interest some people on this forum, because he was a Red Sox player. I also give updates ocassionally about Manny and other former Sox players. Does this bother you?

TheKilo · 09-01-2008, 01:15 AM

Not at all.

I'm just of the opinion that a 4.97 ERA is nothing to write home about.

a700hitter · 09-01-2008, 01:25 AM

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Not at all.

I'm just of the opinion that a 4.97 ERA is nothing to write home about.

But lowering an ERA by more than 1 1/2 runs in 2 months is significant. Have you seen the bandbox that he pitches in? I think he has been a very reliable bck of the rotation guy. he never misses a start and he puts up double digit wins 4 out of 5 years. He should win 15+ games for a really bad Reds team. That's pretty good and frankly, it surprises me. I, for one, have under-rated him.

TheKilo · 09-01-2008, 01:56 AM

Wins are a very overrated stat....probably helped by the bandbox he plays in.

arbitrary · 09-01-2008, 02:11 AM

Seriously, I'm confused here. Is this typical behavior of somebody not caring?

a700hitter · 09-01-2008, 04:29 AM

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Wins are a very overrated stat....probably helped by the bandbox he plays in.

Wins decide pennants and championships. They also seem to be very important in determining HOF election for pitchers. Arroyo fits the back of the rotation role for any team. He eats innings. He's regularly over 200 innings (going on 4 years in a row) and wins 10+ games. The innings from the 4th or 5th spot in the rotation really helps keep a bull pen fresh helping to hide some of its deficiencies. We haven't gotten 200 innings from Wakefield since 2005 and he won't get there in 2008.. Dice K will fall short of 200 innings too as will Beckett.

riverside sluggers · 09-01-2008, 08:58 AM

Wake, Beckett and Dice-K arent reaching 200 innings because of one reason... the disabled list

Beckett reached 200 innings the last 2 seasons and Dice topped 200 innings in his debut season. Wakefield last season had a very respectable 189 innings pitched