MLB Hot Stove 2012-2013

[Palodios]

Originally Posted by User Name?

Two bad years, and a bunch of injuries. It's not "Low risk, high ceiling", it's "Low cost, moderate ceiling". I'm not one for hyperbole.

Why go for crappy depth signings when they could have had a guy like Marcum for cheap and then figure out the rest along the way? You know, since Marcum has always had success as a soft tosser (in the AL East to boot) and doesn't have diminishing velocity and a pitful K rate.

Woah, woah there. Marcum is in a different class than JJ. Marcum wouldn't be a depth signing, he'd be a major league signing, no doubt. There is a significant difference in talent between Marcum and JJ, and I want to make that clear. But if the Red Sox are only signing depth, JJ would be at the top of my list of depth signings.

[User Name?]

Originally Posted by Palodios

Woah, woah there. Marcum is in a different class than JJ. Marcum wouldn't be a depth signing, he'd be a major league signing, no doubt. There is a significant difference in talent between Marcum and JJ, and I want to make that clear. But if the Red Sox are only signing depth, JJ would be at the top of my list of depth signings.

Why sign depth when you can upgrade for a price that's not significantly higher?

[Palodios]

Originally Posted by User Name?

Why sign depth when you can upgrade for a price that's not significantly higher?

Do we have terms on Marcum yet? I anticipated 10 million for signing him, which would be significantly higher.

[User Name?]

Originally Posted by Palodios

Do we have terms on Marcum yet? I anticipated 10 million for signing him, which would be significantly higher.

I doubt it's that much, given Mets financial constraints.

[jacksonianmarch]

1yr $4 mil with incentives

[BSN07]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

1yr $4 mil with incentives

The base isn't bad but I wonder what the incentives can bring it to.

Hopefully this doesn't get me called a honk, but honestly if your a SP looking to build value and given the choice between the Mets and Red Sox, your probably going with the Mets. Easier NL, pitchers park(for the time being, will see how the new alignment works out), much better shot at making the Mets rotation.

[Palodios]

Well shit. What a bargain for the Mets. He must have serious injury concerns.... I had considered him the second best pitcher available this offseason.

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by Palodios

Well shit. What a bargain for the Mets. He must have serious injury concerns.... I had considered him the second best pitcher available this offseason.

He had tendonitis in his elbow after having his second TJS procedure in 09, so there were concerns. He returned and was throwing as well as he did prior to those issues, though. I thought he was a prime candidate for a 2 yr deal, but on a 1 yr pillow contract, I thought he suited the sox well. I get why he went to the Mets, if he shows he's healthy and gets back to what he was doing, then he's a prime candidate for a 3-4 yr deal at big money after 2013. But I thought the sox situation could have been tempered with his effectiveness and history of durability

[Palodios]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

He had tendonitis in his elbow after having his second TJS procedure in 09, so there were concerns. He returned and was throwing as well as he did prior to those issues, though. I thought he was a prime candidate for a 2 yr deal, but on a 1 yr pillow contract, I thought he suited the sox well. I get why he went to the Mets, if he shows he's healthy and gets back to what he was doing, then he's a prime candidate for a 3-4 yr deal at big money after 2013. But I thought the sox situation could have been tempered with his effectiveness and history of durability

It seems very surprising to me that the Mets don't find themselves with more pitchers looking for pillow contracts. The Mets have a good market size, plus guaranteed primetime subway series games. It is a division that isn't awful to pitch in like the ALE, but won't get the scorn of the NLW teams for huge stadiums.

[a700hitter]

Lazy Lars finds a home.

White Sox Claim Lars Anderson
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [February 1 at 1:29pm CST]

The White Sox announced that they claimed first baseman Lars Anderson off of waivers from the Diamondbacks. Chicago's 40-man roster is now full. Arizona had designated Anderson for assignment last week.

The Diamondbacks originally acquired Anderson from Cleveland in a three-team trade earlier in the offseason. The 25-year-old appeared in six games for the Red Sox last year, but Boston traded him to the Indians for Steven Wright at the non-waiver trade deadline last July. Anderson, a left-handed hitter, spent most of the 2012 season at Triple-A, where he posted a .250/.353/.396 batting line in 470 plate appearances.

[a700hitter]

Athletics Acquire Jed Lowrie In Five-Player Deal
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [February 4 at 5:02pm CST]
The Astros announced that they sent shortstop Jed Lowrie to the Athletics in a five-player trade.*The Astros acquire first baseman*Chris Carter, starting pitcher*Brad Peacock and catching prospect*Max Stassi from the A's in the deal, which sends right-handed reliever Fernando Rodriguez to Oakland along with Lowrie.

The Astros are trading Lowrie approximately one year after acquiring him from the Red Sox. Astros GM Jeff Luhnow maintained throughout the offseason that he didn't want to trade Lowrie unless he could obtain impact players in return.

“This trade gives us power, pitching and catching,”*Luhnow said in a statement released by the team. “Three valuable commodities that will help improve our organization.”

The Stros got a lot more value for Lowrie than the Red Sox got with Melancon.

[jacksonianmarch]

So the Astros turned a lame Lance Berkman with an expiring contract into Jimmy Paredes, Max Stassi, Brad Peacock, Kyle Weiland, and Chris Carter. They must be ecstatic

[Palodios]

Its official-- the Oakland A's will be the team to beat in the AL West.

[BSN07]

The Orioles have yet to finalize their one-year, $1.5MM agreement with Jair Jurrjens, and there’s a chance the deal will fall through. The Orioles were still receiving medical evaluations on Jurrjens as of last night, Encina reports. It’s becoming unclear whether the deal will be completed and it doesn’t seem to be headed in a positive direction. Orioles executives have long-standing concerns about Jurrjens’ health.

I wonder what the hold up is? If it falls through I'm still of the side where I think the Sox should offer him a minor league deal.

[Palodios]

Originally Posted by BSN07

I wonder what the hold up is? If it falls through I'm still of the side where I think the Sox should offer him a minor league deal.

Agreed.