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Coco's Disciples · 05-04-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by das11209

In hindsight - is the Gagne trade the worst Theo has made or is it getting Mirabelli back from SD or Arroyo for WMP?

And I know we all were excited when the Gagne trade happened.

Mirabelli for Bard and Meredith in my book.

das11209 · 05-04-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Coco's Disciples

Mirabelli for Bard and Meredith in my book.

Escorting Belli to the Sox game like a celibrity just added extra negative credit for that trade.

das11209 · 05-04-2008, 06:32 PM

Houston just won the game 8-6 on Hunter Pence's homer in 12th.

CrespoBlows · 05-04-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by das11209

In hindsight - is the Gagne trade the worst Theo has made or is it getting Mirabelli back from SD or Arroyo for WMP?

I'll go with the Mirabelli trade.

BTW, anyone look at Arroyo stats in 2008? 8.63 ERA in the NL? Chris Carter might be the best player out of the three.

das11209 · 05-04-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CrespoBlows

I'll go with the Mirabelli trade.

BTW, anyone look at Arroyo stats in 2008? 8.67 ERA in the NL? Chris Carter might be the best player out of the three.

Yeah - I think WMP lost his spot in National's line-up.

Any idea how Carter is doing in the minors this year?

redsoxrules · 05-04-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by das11209

In hindsight - is the Gagne trade the worst Theo has made or is it getting Mirabelli back from SD or Arroyo for WMP?

And I know we all were excited when the Gagne trade happened.

I wouldn't put arroyo in that discussion , he's awfull

CrespoBlows · 05-04-2008, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by das11209

Yeah - I think WMP lost his spot in National's line-up.

Any idea how Carter is doing in the minors this year?

Pena started the last three games, before sitting in today's game. He's hitting .364 this month, after coming off the DL with an injury.

The Red Sox probably could have gotten Cueto, or Votto, if they wanted to wait for a prospect.

das11209 · 05-04-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrespoBlows

Pena started the last three games, before sitting in today's game. He's hitting .364 this month, after coming off the DL with an injury.

The Red Sox probably could have gotten Cueto, or Votto, if they wanted to wait for a prospect.

Cueto has cooled down after a sizzling start.

das11209 · 05-04-2008, 08:19 PM

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I wouldn't put arroyo in that discussion , he's awfull

I don't know. He was very servicable and cost controlled pitcher after he took the hometown discount. We got nothing out of WMP - so far that trade has sucked for us. May be Carter will change it.

But may be that was the 3rd worst trade for Theo.

Jayhawk Bill · 05-04-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by das11209

I don't know. He was very servicable and cost controlled pitcher after he took the hometown discount. We got nothing out of WMP - so far that trade has sucked for us. May be Carter will change it.

But may be that was the 3rd worst trade for Theo.

WMP did hit .300 with power in 2006.

WMP was never a good bench player. Tito insisted on using him that way in 2007, and he sucked at it--when he went to the Nats and started regularly, he was great again despite a late-season injury.

I don't blame Theo for WMP, I blame Tito for misusing him. Furthermore, I'm a big Chris Carter fan if you're talking hitting (not fielding)...the Arroyo trade is not yet over.

Coco's Disciples · 05-04-2008, 09:53 PM

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Cueto has cooled down after a sizzling start.

But hes still a highly regarded prospect with filthy stuff.

**schillingouttheks** · 05-05-2008, 12:15 AM

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But hes still a highly regarded prospect with filthy stuff.

Volquez is nice too eh?

CrespoBlows · 05-05-2008, 12:26 AM

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Volquez is nice too eh?

Good move by both teams. The Reds had a top flight prospect waiting in the wings, and got a good pitcher in return.

It's too bad that the Reds hired Dusty Baker. Corey Patterson looks great in CF.

das11209 · 05-05-2008, 08:23 AM

The main reason why I think Gagne trade was A REAL bad idea ( in hindsight of course).

From Rotoworld:

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Engel Beltre went 4-for-5 with a homer and three RBI for low Single-A Clinton on Sunday.

David Murphy and Kason Gabbard have already paid dividends, but Beltre has the most raw talent of the players the Rangers picked up from the Red Sox for Eric Gagne last summer. The 18-year-old is batting .295/.331/.446 in the Midwest League.

TheKilo · 05-05-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by das11209

The main reason why I think Gagne trade was A REAL bad idea ( in hindsight of course).

From Rotoworld:

Yeah, because I'm sure you know exactly who Engel Beltre was.

Please, STFU.