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I am very excited about this kid. Not because he is on any watch lists or anything, but he can go from a so-so trading chip to a big time chip if he pitches well.

 

Wright is no power pitcher. He'll sit 88-92 with the heater, has a very good changeup and curve. His recent dominance (FSL Pitcher of the Yr in 06) is owed to a new slurve which makes him even more deadly. He is a crafty lefty, a bit old for his league (24yrs old) who to this point last yr was considered a fringe prospect. But after going 12-3 with a 1.88ERA in 113IP last season, he started climbing the ranks. Unfortunately for him, the yankee pitching in the system got so deep that he was actually dropping in the yankee depth chart in terms of top pitching prospects. The yankees decided to add him to the 40 man this yr to avoid the rule 5 draft and thus far it has panned out. This offseason, his slurve was tightened and his arm slot was changed a bit. The new arm slow has given him a very sharp, sinking 2 seamer and hence is giving him lots of groundballs.

 

In 2 starts, he is 1-0 with a 0.00 ERA, 14IP 4H 1BB 19K and a solid 2.29 GB/FB ratio.

 

Unfortunately, he has drawn the assignment of facing Cleveland, but if he pitches well, it could open a few eyes about a guy who was rated by some expert sources as being our 17th best SP prior to this season.

 

 

As for Britton, he is a POWER armed fatboy who we got for free from the Orioles. He had a very strong season in his rookie yr last yr with a low 3's ERA in 50+IP of relief.

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With all thewse injuries to the starters, Clueless Joe is bound to burn out the pen by the end of May. The Pen is one of their strengths and Torre could destroy it.
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With all thewse injuries to the starters' date=' Clueless Joe is bound to burn out the pen by the end of May. The Pen is one of their strengths and Torre [b']will[/b] destroy it.

 

If Torre continues to put workloads out as currently doled, they will be fine.

 

Henn 8.2IP

Vizcaino 8.1IP

Proctor 7.1IP

Bruney 7.0IP

Farnsworth 5.1IP

Rivera 4.0IP

Myers 4.1IP

 

Joe's biggest problem is that he falls in love with one pitcher and just burns him out. Once he burns them out, he moved onto the next guy and continues the trend until there is no bridge and Mo is tired. If he continues to dole out equal innings, our bullpen can handle it for the most part. If he reverts to old tendencies, then this pen will fall apart quickly.

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So they will be fine even if the starting pitchers consistently cant get late into the game? Just cuz he's equaling up the large ammount of bullpen work, doesnt mean the bullpen will be spring chickens once October rolls around
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If Torre continues to put workloads out as currently doled, they will be fine.

 

Henn 8.2IP

Vizcaino 8.1IP

Proctor 7.1IP

Bruney 7.0IP

Farnsworth 5.1IP

Rivera 4.0IP

Myers 4.1IP

 

Joe's biggest problem is that he falls in love with one pitcher and just burns him out. Once he burns them out, he moved onto the next guy and continues the trend until there is no bridge and Mo is tired. If he continues to dole out equal innings, our bullpen can handle it for the most part. If he reverts to old tendencies, then this pen will fall apart quickly.

That's after 10 games. Multiply by 16 and you get the season. That's 4 100+ IP relievers, 80 IP from Farnsworth, 64 from Myers. If that happens, you are out of it by Sept 1.

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So they will be fine even if the starting pitchers consistently cant get late into the game? Just cuz he's equaling up the large ammount of bullpen work' date=' doesnt mean the bullpen will be spring chickens once October rolls around[/quote']

 

The starters in the past 6 games have all gone 5+ except for Moose who was injured. The big problem is the yankees have thrown an extra 7 innings because of ties.

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That's after 10 games. Multiply by 16 and you get the season. That's 4 100+ IP relievers' date=' 80 IP from Farnsworth, 64 from Myers. If that happens, you are out of it by Sept 1.[/quote']

 

I am not saying that you look at the amount to this point, I am saying Torre's "burnout" quotient" will be determined by his (in)equality of innings dished out.

 

Consider this, our starts wont be as bad as they were in the first 5 games, and that is seriously skewing our stats in terms of longevity.

 

And add in essentially another game in extra innings (which is all bullpen), you are seeing a big skew in #s.

Posted
One thing is for certain, the Yankees can't win consistently over the course of the season if the bullpen if being used to this extent, no matter how evenly Joe distributes the innings.
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The starters in the past 6 games have all gone 5+ except for Moose who was injured. The big problem is the yankees have thrown an extra 7 innings because of ties.

 

And now Mussina & Pavano are both on the DL... the rotation is anywhere but top notch or even league average, if you get 6 innings call it a blessing

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One thing is for certain' date=' the Yankees can't win consistently over the course of the season if the bullpen if being used to this extent, no matter how evenly Joe distributes the innings.[/quote']

 

that is true. I dont think the amount off innings will continue. This is why the equality of innings will determine our burnout. If Torre reverts to his old form and decides to designate a bullpen bitch (like Proc last yr) then we will burnout quick.

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I am not saying that you look at the amount to this point, I am saying Torre's "burnout" quotient" will be determined by his (in)equality of innings dished out.

 

Consider this, our starts wont be as bad as they were in the first 5 games, and that is seriously skewing our stats in terms of longevity.

 

And add in essentially another game in extra innings (which is all bullpen), you are seeing a big skew in #s.

 

I do believe there will still be games like there were in the first 5, only yankee i know of that is confident in this starting staff

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I do believe there will still be games like there were in the first 5' date=' only yankee i know of that is confident in this starting staff[/quote']

 

You have to think about it though, our ace is on the mend. Our #2 had a poor initial start and then got hurt in the 3rd inning of a start. Our #3 had a poor start and has been okay since. Our #4 had a poor start, followed by a solid start and will now miss 2-3 starts. Our #5 had a poor start and then an average start. Our #6 has missed the entire season to this point, but will return soon. Our #7 got roughed up in his first start and pitched decent in his 2nd.

 

When things are going well, you can count on..

 

Wang 6.5IP/start

Mussina 6.3IP/start

Pettitte 6.3IP/start

 

To this point, we are averaging

 

Wang 0 starts

Mussina 3IP/start

Pettitte 5IP/start

 

If we took away Schilling and Beckett, you'd be in the same boat.

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I do believe there will still be games like there were in the first 5' date=' only yankee i know of that is confident in this starting staff[/quote']

 

When healthy, (first few weeks of ST), I was confident that this staff could be pretty good. It seemed like they had a good mix of veteran talent and young talent. The problem is, we'll have to wait and see if they all do get healthy. By the way, having Karstens instead of Pavano (depending on how long Pavano is out), would not be the worst thing in the world.

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Ok but we have more than 2 starters that can give good innings. Wakefield has averaged 6.5 innings while a guy named Matsuzaka had 2 starts with 7 innings apiece

 

Sorry forgot which thread Im in, the Yankees rotation will settle down and cruise all the way to October!

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Ok but we have more than 2 starters that can give good innings. Wakefield has averaged 6.5 innings while a guy named Matsuzaka had 2 starts with 7 innings apiece

 

Sorry forgot which thread Im in, the Yankees rotation will settle down and cruise all the way to October!

 

And if you think Wakefield will stay this dominant, I have some swampland in florida for sale.

 

As for our options, to this point, we have guys who can give innings. Hell, even Rasner went 5+ last game and he is just a stop gap guy, not a prospect. And to put things in perspective, Wake would be gone too as we lost our #4 in Pavano. If your rotation was hurt as much as ours was, your rotation would be

 

DMats

Tavarez

Hansack

Lester

???

 

Not inspiring to say the least.

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Ok but we have more than 2 starters that can give good innings. Wakefield has averaged 6.5 innings while a guy named Matsuzaka had 2 starts with 7 innings apiece

 

Sorry forgot which thread Im in, the Yankees rotation will settle down and cruise all the way to October!

 

I was never comparing them to the Red Sox starters.

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And if you think Wakefield will stay this dominant, I have some swampland in florida for sale.

 

As for our options, to this point, we have guys who can give innings. Hell, even Rasner went 5+ last game and he is just a stop gap guy, not a prospect. And to put things in perspective, Wake would be gone too as we lost our #4 in Pavano. If your rotation was hurt as much as ours was, your rotation would be

 

DMats

Tavarez

Hansack

Lester

???

 

Not inspiring to say the least.

 

Ok but its not like that right now... so why should I worry, which is what you want Sox fans to start doing to make you feel better

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Where did I say dominant? I'll re-read my post several times in your honor... huh as it turns out I never said domiant. I said Innings' date=' which is what he does best... he gives the team (gasp) innings[/quote']

 

hence why I dont think you should ever get rid of him. He gives innings. Like I said before, we need Igawa to be as durable as Wake over the long haul. 2 starts in, we have mixed results. Wake offers you a quality back end guy who will give you 180-200+IP a season. We need that, and we may have that. Too early to tell.

Posted
Ok but its not like that right now... so why should I worry' date=' which is what you want Sox fans to start doing to make you feel better[/quote']

 

I dont care if you worry and I am not worrying at all. But to assume that the innings are going to be like this over the long haul is very premature.

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