Snowstorm for the Pats/Jets Game?

[TheKilo]

Precipitation model for Sunday night....two feet of precipitation for the Boston area??

Could make things interesting for the passing game....

[Mr Crunchy]

this could be their 1 problem down the stretch
laurence maroney isnt a reliable back and heath evans couldnt gain 100 yrds if he were on the field alone and we know faulk fumbles a lot.
the bad weather is just as good as a tuff defense
the pats throw and throw and throw and when they cant throw what happens then??
are they going to be able to run when they need 3rd and 3 in a raging blizzard with 50mph winds?
this is my worry

[See Red]

Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

this could be their 1 problem down the stretch
laurence maroney isnt a reliable back and heath evans couldnt gain 100 yrds if he were on the field alone and we know faulk fumbles a lot.
the bad weather is just as good as a tuff defense
the pats throw and throw and throw and when they cant throw what happens then??
are they going to be able to run when they need 3rd and 3 in a raging blizzard with 50mph winds?
this is my worry

I said in the other thread this should be a concern. Not only your inability to run the ball, but the inability to stop the run. This team's not built to win in the conditions they might have to win in come playoff time.

[schillingouttheks]

That storm is supposed to hit early Thursday, last I heard.

EDIT: Wait, nevermind. The storm I'm talking about is somewhere else.

[Taliesin]

Originally Posted by See Red

I said in the other thread this should be a concern. Not only your inability to run the ball, but the inability to stop the run. This team's not built to win in the conditions they might have to win in come playoff time.

Keep w/ the delusions sweetums. The jealousy of the rest of the entire planet is astounding to me. There is abject hatred outside of the confines of guys hanging around pubs in the New England states who dealt w/ years of being maligned and a futility that would make another hundred years of the Cubbies losing seem quaint. Not my game, but it's where I'm from. They were the Patsies. The doormats. What is it about this culture that we can't recognize excellence when we see it outside of our own myopia and whatever drivel the media force feeds us (you) and when we see it we drag it down. PAYyton..he's just so awesome...doesn't belong in the same sentence as T.B. Yeah..I'm sure BB is worried about stopping the run. Whose run? Sherman would quiver in his Union boots at the sight of the Gortex Svengali at the helm of the ship on this March to ...well not Atlanta but close. Cheaters! Fornicators!

The losers like to bring the winners down. Human nature I guess....could be I'm surrounded by bitter Redskins and Eagles fans down here and the odd Cowboy fan who thinks they have a shot.

[schillingouttheks]

Well, the Cowboy fan would be right in that they have a shot. Dallas is a damn good football team - they're different from when the Pats last played them.

Why is it so out there to suggest that the Pats could be at a significant disadvantage in these conditions due to their lack of a consistent run game and run defense? Now, that run defense looks a bit better, they gave up some yardage on the ground last week against the Steelers but didn't shit the bed. (Steelers are #1 in the league in rushing, no?)

I'm a Pats fan, and I don't think it's assinine to think that they could be in trouble in these conditions...

I don't recall anyone in this thread "not recognizing excellence" or making statements, such as the one you quoted, out of jealousy. They're legitimate points, no?

[TheKilo]

Originally Posted by taliesin

Keep w/ the delusions sweetums. The jealousy of the rest of the entire planet is astounding to me. There is abject hatred outside of the confines of guys hanging around pubs in the New England states who dealt w/ years of being maligned and a futility that would make another hundred years of the Cubbies losing seem quaint. Not my game, but it's where I'm from. They were the Patsies. The doormats. What is it about this culture that we can't recognize excellence when we see it outside of our own myopia and whatever drivel the media force feeds us (you) and when we see it we drag it down. PAYyton..he's just so awesome...doesn't belong in the same sentence as T.B. Yeah..I'm sure BB is worried about stopping the run. Whose run? Sherman would quiver in his Union boots at the sight of the Gortex Svengali at the helm of the ship on this March to ...well not Atlanta but close. Cheaters! Fornicators!

The losers like to bring the winners down. Human nature I guess....could be I'm surrounded by bitter Redskins and Eagles fans down here and the odd Cowboy fan who thinks they have a shot.

Congratulations. You sound like a Yankee fan.

[Mr Crunchy]

the pats have flaws and these flaws have been exposed by philly and baltimore
baltimore had us by the short hairs with the game in the bag
till their qb threw the pick,if they scored a td we were finished,if they kicked a fg we wouldve gone to o.t.
that said
everyone i talk to in any age group for the most part agrees this is the best offense ever.
my concerns are the lack of balance and laurence maroney not running the ball well.
my concerns on defense are the linebackers getting older and worn out
colvins loss is going to burn,seymour is getting handled easily these days and bruschi and vrabel aged a lifetime in the 2nd half of that indi game last year

they can be beat by a team that runs the football well
they can be beat if they dont throw and weather conditions in a january game in boston arent conducive to finesse teams,ask payton manning if you need clarity on this.

[Paradisecity]

Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

the pats have flaws and these flaws have been exposed by philly and baltimore
baltimore had us by the short hairs with the game in the bag
till their qb threw the pick,if they scored a td we were finished,if they kicked a fg we wouldve gone to o.t.
that said
everyone i talk to in any age group for the most part agrees this is the best offense ever.
my concerns are the lack of balance and laurence maroney not running the ball well.
my concerns on defense are the linebackers getting older and worn out
colvins loss is going to burn,seymour is getting handled easily these days and bruschi and vrabel aged a lifetime in the 2nd half of that indi game last year

they can be beat by a team that runs the football well
they can be beat if they dont throw and weather conditions in a january game in boston arent conducive to finesse teams,ask payton manning if you need clarity on this.

Sean- I agree with a lot you've said- the inconsistency of Maroney, the loss of Colvin, the age of our LBs...these worry me

however two things in particular i'm going to argue otherwise are:

1) this is not a finesse offense. see: Donte Stallworth, Wes Welker, Ben Watson, and yes, Tom Brady

2) the weather had very little to do with Peyton Manning and the colts inability to win in Foxboro, and the little bit that it did could be attributed to playing in a dome (which Brady does not do). See the first half of last year's AFC game for the pudding that holds the proof (sorry, but I just need to pick on that raging homo T.O. as much as i can. Shut the fuck up T.O.).

Are we going to have any of these "out for season" guys back for the playoffs My guess is no??

[mtbykr]

The pats def have area's where they can improve...but i think the Baltimore game had more to do with fatigue than anything else. They had played 3 prime-time games in a row and you could tell they were tired...they looked much better in the pitt game. One thing the pats have always done is employ that 'bend but don't break' philosophy. They will give up yards to keep the plays in front of them and not allow the big play.....this is why you will seem things change when teams get into the redzone because the pats aren't protecting against a longer play. They do this to prevent getting burned by the big play, also trusting that at points in the game they will get the 3 and out or the turnover that swings the game.

[TheKilo]

Originally Posted by mtbykr

The pats def have area's where they can improve...but i think the Baltimore game had more to do with fatigue than anything else. They had played 3 prime-time games in a row and you could tell they were tired...they looked much better in the pitt game. One thing the pats have always done is employ that 'bend but don't break' philosophy. They will give up yards to keep the plays in front of them and not allow the big play.....this is why you will seem things change when teams get into the redzone because the pats aren't protecting against a longer play. They do this to prevent getting burned by the big play, also trusting that at points in the game they will get the 3 and out or the turnover that swings the game.

What? They played Sunday vs. Buffalo, went home to play in New england, and had an additional day off for the Baltimore game.

They had just as much, and more, rest between weeks than they normally have.

[Sox Fan on Cape]

Originally Posted by mtbykr
The pats def have area's where they can improve...but i think the Baltimore game had more to do with fatigue than anything else. They had played 3 prime-time games in a row and you could tell they were tired...they looked much better in the pitt game. One thing the pats have always done is employ that 'bend but don't break' philosophy. They will give up yards to keep the plays in front of them and not allow the big play.....this is why you will seem things change when teams get into the redzone because the pats aren't protecting against a longer play. They do this to prevent getting burned by the big play, also trusting that at points in the game they will get the 3 and out or the turnover that swings the game.

Posted by TheKilo
What? They played Sunday vs. Buffalo, went home to play in New england, and had an additional day off for the Baltimore game.

They had just as much, and more, rest between weeks than they normally have.

He didn't say anything about rest, he stated that they played 3 prime-time games in a row.

NE at Buff. 8:15
Phil at NE 8:15
NE at Balt 8:30

[redsoxrules]

Originally Posted by Sox Fan on Cape

He didn't say anything about rest, he stated that they played 3 prime-time games in a row.

NE at Buff. 8:15
Phil at NE 8:15
NE at Balt 8:30

so why would that make a team tired ?

whats the difference of playing 3 straight weeks at a 4PM start time than 3 straight at 8PM?

[Coco's Disciples]

Snowing like crazy right now, not gonna stop until midnight or so.

[mtbykr]

Originally Posted by redsoxrules

so why would that make a team tired ?

whats the difference of playing 3 straight weeks at a 4PM start time than 3 straight at 8PM?

I don't know, i am just making an observation. A lot of the reporters that are with the team all the time mentioned that players had said some things and that they all looked tired and run down. During the week before the steelers game BB gave the team Wednesday off while the coaches finished up the gameplan. After that the team was said to look re-energized and 'back to normal'

I'm sure that the primetime games take a lot more out of a player simply due to the added media stuff in addition to the 'undefeated' talk. In addition during primetime games these guys probably don't get much sleep that night. I remember hearing Brady talk saying that even after a primetime game they would be in there working out at 5 or 6 in the morning...after not getting out of there till early morning after the game. He said they pretty much lose a nights sleep when they have a game like that...so after time it catches up with you.

The results speak for themselves though as BB game them some rest, and they played a better team, and beat them handily. Again all of this is just speculation on my part from things that i have heard.