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Old 02-24-2008, 10:50 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't know much about the NBA, but how can a team trade a player thats retired. Also can teams file any sort of complaints after they trade for a player and he retires or refuses to play?
You'd have to double check this, but the way I understand it is it's a salary cap move. First, Van Horn hadn't officially retired, he just hadn't played in the last 2 years, and the Mavs still held the rights to him. The Mavs re-signed him for 4 million, and they pay him that. He jumps a plane to New Jersey, puts on a little show for the NBA officials, the Nets say thanks but no thanks, and he's on his way. The Nets never expect him to do anything, he just has to make half an effort, in those knee high socks, to keep the league officials happy. The nets never paid him a cent. The Lakers did a similar thing in their trade for Pau Gasol.

Things like this happen fairly regularly in the NBA, and I heard talk of doing something about this rule years ago but nothing ever came of it. I doubt anything ever will. Van Horn is the biggest winner of any of the trades made.
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Old 02-25-2008, 08:25 AM   #17 (permalink)
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You'd have to double check this, but the way I understand it is it's a salary cap move. First, Van Horn hadn't officially retired, he just hadn't played in the last 2 years, and the Mavs still held the rights to him. The Mavs re-signed him for 4 million, and they pay him that. He jumps a plane to New Jersey, puts on a little show for the NBA officials, the Nets say thanks but no thanks, and he's on his way. The Nets never expect him to do anything, he just has to make half an effort, in those knee high socks, to keep the league officials happy. The nets never paid him a cent. The Lakers did a similar thing in their trade for Pau Gasol.

Things like this happen fairly regularly in the NBA, and I heard talk of doing something about this rule years ago but nothing ever came of it. I doubt anything ever will. Van Horn is the biggest winner of any of the trades made.
Yeah you essentially got it. Dallas took his whole salary just to make this deal happen. He goes to NJ, takes a physical, and goes back home. That's living the good life, haha.
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:56 AM   #18 (permalink)
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He has to stay with the team for 30 days. Not a bad deal to walk away with 4.3 million. Not a bad month's work.
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:48 PM   #19 (permalink)
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what a shitty trade this turned out to be
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Old 04-28-2008, 07:27 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Not much worse than the Shaq to Phoenix trade.
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:12 PM   #21 (permalink)
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kidd needs a solid team perhaps with an enforcer to make him shine
he had a decent cast in jersey but they were too soft for the pistons
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:27 PM   #22 (permalink)
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kidd needs a solid team perhaps with an enforcer to make him shine
he had a decent cast in jersey but they were too soft for the pistons
solid team? dallas is a solid team , kidd has done shit since he's been there
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:39 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Kidd doesn't fit on the Mavs because of the roster. His best years in NJ, when they made the finals 2 years in a row, he had guys with an endless motor who weren't just shooters and needed a good PG to get them the ball in open space. Dirk's main offense is backing his man from the high post to the wing and fading away and spotting up. Howard likes to create his own shot. There's no need for Kidd there. Kidd's specialty is the "how the fuck did he see that" pass. Dallas just needs a PG who can fill it up when their other scorers go cold.
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