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02-26-2008, 08:49 PM
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Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
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02-26-2008, 08:52 PM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
Sigh. It just gets worse and worse.
Are Kevin and Ricky Williams friends?
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02-26-2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
Wait...professional athletes smoke marijuana?!?!?
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02-26-2008, 09:55 PM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
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Originally Posted by HeadOfSoxNation
Wait...professional athletes smoke marijuana?!?!?
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Where else would the money go?!?!
Certainly not charities or other beneficial things.
Latrell Spreewell definitely wasn't trying to feed his kids if you know what I mean.
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02-27-2008, 08:43 AM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
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Originally Posted by YanksHater213
Where else would the money go?!?!
Certainly not charities or other beneficial things.
Latrell Spreewell definitely wasn't trying to feed his kids if you know what I mean.
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do you know what kevin faulk gives to charity every year or what he donated to the city of new orleans and other gulf coast cities ravaged by katrina?
what does the possession of 4 fucking blunts have to do with charity anyways?
he can get more dangerous shit legally from the pats trainers if he wanted to.
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02-27-2008, 10:05 AM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
The story would have been a better read if it were Keith Foulke with the munchies eating at a Burger King.
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02-27-2008, 10:06 AM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
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Originally Posted by YanksHater213
Where else would the money go?!?!
Certainly not charities or other beneficial things.
Latrell Spreewell definitely wasn't trying to feed his kids if you know what I mean.
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What???? Faulk is actually one of the biggest charity guys out there. Nice job comparing him to Latrell
This obviously isn't good, but I'm also not surprised.
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02-27-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
Who cares? A professional football player occasionally smoking a J isn't the end of the world. We should just legalize (or decriminalize) the stuff and be done with it.
Alcohol is a much bigger social problem than potheads IMHO.
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02-27-2008, 03:19 PM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
Bigger problem? How so?
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02-27-2008, 04:30 PM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
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Bigger problem? How so?
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More people die of liver problems, drunk driving, etc., due to alcohol intoxication than from marijuana abuse. Marijuana abuse is clinically a much less significant issue than alcoholism, which can be fatal. Alcohol is regularly associated with stupid decision making and violent acts, marijuana is not so much.
I'm not recommending that everyone start smoking, I'm just saying that in terms of its effect on families and communities alcohol can be devistating.
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02-27-2008, 06:25 PM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
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More people die of liver problems, drunk driving, etc., due to alcohol intoxication than from marijuana abuse. Marijuana abuse is clinically a much less significant issue than alcoholism, which can be fatal. Alcohol is regularly associated with stupid decision making and violent acts, marijuana is not so much.
I'm not recommending that everyone start smoking, I'm just saying that in terms of its effect on families and communities alcohol can be devistating.
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So can prescription drugs, ect... the problem isn't the alcohol, it's the people that abuse it.
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02-27-2008, 08:36 PM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
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Originally Posted by example1
More people die of liver problems, drunk driving, etc., due to alcohol intoxication than from marijuana abuse. Marijuana abuse is clinically a much less significant issue than alcoholism, which can be fatal. Alcohol is regularly associated with stupid decision making and violent acts, marijuana is not so much.
I'm not recommending that everyone start smoking, I'm just saying that in terms of its effect on families and communities alcohol can be devistating.
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Wow, you've just completely whitewashed a couple of things. Most smokers smoke filtered cigarettes. Due to smoking without filters and the nature of how it is smoked (holding it in), grass smokers generally expose themselves to 3-5 times the tar and CO absorbtion. Smoking does far more harm to the body than drinking. Are high drivers any different than drunk drivers? Dope doesn't lead to as many stupid decisions? I'd certainly disagree, from personal experience, there.
I'm not taking this up because I'm anti-drug. I think the war on drugs is stupid. Simple possession, of anything, should be at least decriminalized, but I'm for complete legalization. Of all of them. The drugs aren't going away. The busts just result in new dealers. Why let organized crime make money - while we waste money enforcing it - when we could reassign every law enforcement officer, funded through taxes on drugs, to the investigate real crime. Person on person crime. None of this NIMBY crap. I mean, as a society we allow women to kill an unborn child, and it's legal because we supposedly wanted to make the practice safer (which hasn't been delivered, IMO). How hypocritical is it if we'll allow babies to be killed for safety, but not the usage of drugs?
Anyway, I don't see the "alcohol is more damaging" line of thinking. It's what I told myself when I started smoking grass, but now I see them as equal in stature in terms of the negatives.
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02-28-2008, 11:57 AM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
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I'm not taking this up because I'm anti-drug. I think the war on drugs is stupid. Simple possession, of anything, should be at least decriminalized, but I'm for complete legalization. Of all of them. The drugs aren't going away. The busts just result in new dealers. Why let organized crime make money - while we waste money enforcing it - when we could reassign every law enforcement officer, funded through taxes on drugs, to the investigate real crime. Person on person crime. None of this NIMBY crap. I mean, as a society we allow women to kill an unborn child, and it's legal because we supposedly wanted to make the practice safer (which hasn't been delivered, IMO). How hypocritical is it if we'll allow babies to be killed for safety, but not the usage of drugs?
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You need to read some of retired cop Jeff Kaufman's essays.
http://groups.google.com/group/valle...d8cc03ebcbfe49
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php?name=Speakers&bio=235
http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/law04.htm
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02-28-2008, 12:46 PM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
I've heard of LEAP, and that, to me, says a lot. When law enforcement officers are telling us the current war on drugs isn't doing anything, we ought to listen. I do, however, take some exception to the notion that illegality doesn't dissuade people from using. I'm subject to random drug testing at work. The fact that I could lose my job, and the potential for social services to get involved with my kids if I'm caught in possession, are significant deterents to me. Therefore, I don't partake, and I would (occaissionally) if there was no potential for penalty. I'm sure there are many who act the same. That said, I don't, nor will I, believe that more people smoking an occassional J is all that bad compared to the current failed effort.
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02-28-2008, 01:57 PM
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Re: Kevin Faulk arrested with pot
I smoke blunts all day.
People just need to let us chill. If it is detrimental to one's job, career, family, etc. that's one thing. They should be smart enough not to use. Professional athletes fall into this category due to their league's drug policies. That said, while it's wrong and against league rules, I can't get too mad at guys like Randy Moss, Faulk, Javy Vazquez, etc. smoking in the offseason. Not that I'm condoning it, but it won't seriously bother me unless they're burning in-season and it's having an effect on their performance, preventing them from getting to practices (on time or even at all), work ethic, etc. But like I said, if it really has no personal consequences, people should just let us be. Fucking police state we live in is just ignoring all of our rights. I've had some experiences where police resorted to unnecessary actions when it comes to weed. Like if I'm trafficing weight, or hard drugs that's one thing. But otherwise LEAVE ME ALONE DAMNIT!

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