Patriots stole Jet's signs?

[jacksonianmarch]

worse than steroids in terms of competitive balance. The Jets should get a 2nd round and a 5th rounder for this.

[riverside sluggers]

Originally Posted by ARod2212

Sportsnation poll overwhelmingly supports the Pats being forced to forfeit the game. Every state outside of New England was a 'yellow state' in the poll. I found that pretty amusing.

I hope the league does come down hard on them for this. This shit can't be allowed to happen.

The Jets cant take away the game from the Patriots. The draft picks sure. Even then, belichick wont be crying in his pillow over. He's said before that Draft day is something he has to do, not something he looks forwrad to. Free agency is his game

Like other fans this isnt something I dont condone. But seeing hand signals (whose to say they saw them during the game) helped them rout 38-14? It helped Moss beat triple coverage and Hobbs set his NFL record return?

[YanksHater213]

to be fair, cheating is cheating, but seriously people, would it really have made a difference? probably not.

[ARod2212]

Originally Posted by riverside sluggers

The Jets cant take away the game from the Patriots. The draft picks sure. Even then, belichick wont be crying in his pillow over. He's said before that Draft day is something he has to do, not something he looks forwrad to. Free agency is his game

Like other fans this isnt something I dont condone. But seeing hand signals (whose to say they saw them during the game) helped them rout 38-14? It helped Moss beat triple coverage and Hobbs set his NFL record return?

Obviously they're not going to take the game away from them, I just found it interesting that every state in the poll was in favor of it. I didn't even think New York would vote that way.

The signs didn't change the fact that Moss was a freak of nature and the poor special teams coverage, but maybe some of those calls at the LOS by Brady would have been different. I mean last year in New England, they confused the hell out of Brady and really put him on his ass. Sunday they had absolutely no pressure on him all game. I think there has to be some correlation, even if it's slight. If it didn't make a difference why would they consistently have this guy filming?

[redsoxrules]

like YanksHater213 said cheating is cheating , it may have not affected the outcome of that game but it could have ....

[schillingouttheks]

Originally Posted by redsoxrules

like YanksHater213 said cheating is cheating , it may have not affected the outcome of that game but it could have ....

It probably wouldn't have, but now that it's pretty evident that they cheated, I'm really pissed about this. I'll wait until we get to see what the team says to defend itself, but I'm really heated about this.

rsr, I was just waiting until something more conclusive came forward until I chimed in. I know they still most likely cheated, which is bullshit in every form here (I'm not going to sit here and defend them in case you were wondering), but whether they did it or not the Jets just got outplayed in every aspect of the game.

Now, should the Pats be forced to forfeit the game? No, but they definitely deserve a harsh punishment. If the game was a lot closer where it could have made a big difference, then maybe I'd say they should forfeit it.

[riverside sluggers]

Originally Posted by schillingouttheks

It probably wouldn't have, but now that it's pretty evident that they cheated, I'm really pissed about this. I'll wait until we get to see what the team says to defend itself, but I'm really heated about this.

rsr, I was just waiting until something more conclusive came forward until I chimed in. I know they still most likely cheated, which is bullshit in every form here (I'm not going to sit here and defend them in case you were wondering), but whether they did it or not the Jets just got outplayed in every aspect of the game.

Now, should the Pats be forced to forfeit the game? No, but they definitely deserve a harsh punishment. If the game was a lot closer where it could have made a big difference, then maybe I'd say they should forfeit it.

I said in my post I dont condone them doing it. I wouldve said shit like "all teams do it" if my intent was to sit and defend them

[schillingouttheks]

Originally Posted by riverside sluggers

I said in my post I dont condone them doing it. I wouldve said shit like "all teams do it" if my intent was to sit and defend them

I wasn't pointing you out or anything. Didn't mean to make it sound that way.

[Coco's Disciples]

I love the Pats and all, but as others have said, this is unacceptable.

[Gom]

Any team that violates this rule and is caught should lose their first round pick the following year [that is if it is not already traded]. Make the penalty severe enough, and the rule won't be broken.

[Cityofchampions33]

Not sure if I sai this before, not only does the cheating on it's own principle upset me, but it's the obviousness of how they got caught, they did the same exact thing they did in Lambeau to a T. The guy even stuck out if you watched the game again, he was wearing dark green and khacki shorts among yellow-vested cameramen and stuck out like a sore thumb, the ace in the hole here is the pats side of the story, i will withhold any judgement until then.

[See Red]

Like I said, they more than likely weren't cheating to benefit the short term, but future matchups against the Jets. If they're going to cheat, they should learn how to do it better. I don't see how anybody's shocked, Belichick seems like the type of coach who'd look for and exploit any advantage he could get, which I think is great if I'm a fan of his team. A bit off topic but speaking of Roger Goodell cracking down... I'd be interested to see if he cracks down on the way the Patriots do their injury reports too.

[inkman]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

worse than steroids in terms of competitive balance. The Jets should get a 2nd round and a 5th rounder for this.

Doesn't giving the Jets draft picks, hurt every other team in the NFL? I thought the idea was to punish the offender, not reward the offended.

[inkman]

Originally Posted by YanksHater213

to be fair, cheating is cheating, but seriously people, would it really have made a difference? probably not.

I think some people in Las Vegas beg to differ with ya.

[He Hate Me]

I think a fair punishment would be forfeitureof their 2nd, 4th and 6th round picks along with a $1M fine.

Guy in the Post also had a novel idea. Move the Pats Jets game in Foxboro to Giants stadium. That probably would make more sense than forfeiting the game.