Billick Accuses Jets of Cheating ... lol

[Mr Crunchy]

the spying issue has been buried by the nfl and the patriots forever
its over
the damage done the fines issued the draft picks taken and the payoff by kraft to the commisionars office is in the mail

bb is the best coach in history
and a man who would stab a child in the face for a win

[See Red]

Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

the spying issue has been buried by the nfl and the patriots forever
its over
the damage done the fines issued the draft picks taken and the payoff by kraft to the commisionars office is in the mail

bb is the best coach in history
and a man who would stab a child in the face for a win

Disagree. Bill Walsh has him. Almost every team in the NFL runs some form of Bill Walsh's West Coast offense -- it's a copycat league but none of the trends last this long unless there's really something to 'em -- Walsh was as brilliant as you will ever see patrolling an NFL sideline and his coaching tree is amazing to boot.

[redsoxrules]

Originally Posted by See Red

Disagree. Bill Walsh has him. Almost every team in the NFL runs some form of Bill Walsh's West Coast offense -- it's a copycat league but none of the trends last this long unless there's really something to 'em -- Walsh was as brilliant as you will ever see patrolling an NFL sideline and his coaching tree is amazing to boot.

what he said

[schillingouttheks]

BB is up there obviously, but what keeps me from saying that he's the best coach ever is that for whatever reason, he can't beat the Broncos. Shanahan's always been a thorn in his side. For me to label someone as the best ever, they can't have thorns in their side.

[TheKilo]

Yeah he did an awesome job in Cleveland.

[Mr Crunchy]

warning
football guy about to go on and on

lets start with bill parcells,the genious the tuna the man who was on the phone with old man hess working out the details of his jets deal as his team prepped for the superbowl against green bay....
too bad
the defense played very well,the special teams and the offense failed us but belicheks defense held all world brett favre to 2tds.......lets move on
how many did parcells win without belichek??
head to head how to bb do against the tuna,cowher??dungee??

the pats won a superbowl as a 14 point dog after burying the steelers as a 7 point dog.....
on the road
the won 3-4 years
this year will be 4 in 7 and who knows where we end up at the end of the decade
gentlemen
this is in the era of the hard salary cap and the above #s havent been bested by anyone
bill walsh shula lombardi knoll landry and jjohnson included

kilo
cleveland was in the middle of moving their franchise and his team quit on him the fans quit and art modell gave a fuck less in 95.
blaming that scenario on his is bullshit but maybe youre too young to remember.
if you were old enuff
do you remember 94??
if you recall when that cleveland team played the parcells and bledsoe led patriots cleveland dismantled us in the playoffs and bledsoe threw 4 pix

sox rules
whos going to win the grey cup this year??
those montreal alouettes are a force eh....

see red
can you give me a game where the pats were supposed to win in the playoffs and didnt??
i can give you a few that walsh shouldve won and didnt
the day that montana had his back broken by jim burt they were 3pt favorites and got beat by 46 in giants stadium...
gibbs beat him in the nfc championship game in 84,parcells then smoked him the following december.......they got beat by minnesota of all teams in 88.....
these games were all games the 49ers were favored in as they had the best football team in the game thru the 80s...believe me
ive been in the business of football for a very very long time and for me it isnt just bula bula,i have a vested interest in every team every game if you get my drift and bill belichek has cost me more money than the wife kids and irs combined...
i dont pick em
i just write down what you pick...
anyways walsh is a great coach,an innovative genious if you will and a guy who changed football and the role of eveyone on offense...i like bb better...
i liked gibbs better back in the day,he of the 1 back H back offense
he won with 3 shitty qbs as opposed to the pats and 49ers who have the best in the league

from the bowels of my mind i come up with 3 head to head matchups
see how belicheks defenses did against walsh in walshes prime and correct me if im wrong please
87 ny 49-3
85 ny 17-3
84 ny 21-10
hows walsh and his 5.33 pts per game in the playoffs looking against bb now??

anyways
i understand bb struggles against miami and denver but i think the pats will be ok

[See Red]

For one, Gibbs' struggle to adjust to the modern-day NFL hurts is legacy enough to drop him below the ranks of Walsh and company. Part of what makes great coaches great is an ability to adjust, no? I understand Daniel Snyder sucks at assembling teams, but the Skins ain't even been close.

I got the '84 49ers beating the Giants 31-10 in the regular season beating the Giants 21-10 in the postseason.

'85 is correct, but that was a 10-6 49ers team... hardly his best -- Jerry Rice's rookie year and as I understand it, the 49ers racked up more yardage than the Giants in that game... just couldn't cash in.

'87 the 49ers beat the Giants 41-21 in the regular season (I think it's obvious that BB had Walsh's number in that one), and the 49ers lost to the Vikings in the first round of the playoffs.

These are Walsh's point totals against the Giants from 1984 to 1988, his last year as head coach.

31, 21, 3, 17, 41, 20

edit: missed a year, there was another 3, and a 17 in there.

17 points a game is Bill Walsh getting shut down by Belichick? Walsh torched him as many times as Belichick shut him down. They were 10-5-1 the year they lost 49-3, so it wasn't one of his best teams to begin with, and they lost Montana in the second quarter -- not to say the game would've been close but I'm sure they'd have managed more than 3 points.

My point is, Crunchy... what in the hell are you talking about?! Aside from one game, I have Walsh doing extremely well against Belichick's defenses. And Seifert's 49ers went on to scorch the Giants defense the next year. And by the way, those 49ers teams had some great defenses ever. And I dare say that those 49ers Super Bowl teams would beat Belichick's Super Bowl teams pretty handily. Clutch kicker ain't worth shit when you're down by three scores.

How about the fact that the Patriots missed the playoffs following their first Super Bowl?

[redsoxrules]

Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

sox rules
whos going to win the grey cup this year??
those montreal alouettes are a force eh....

I dont know , you tell me , you seem to be talking alot about the CFL , why you asking me ?
I dont watch the dam thing

[See Red]

By the way, Crunchy... we have no idea to what extent Bill Belichick has cheated and how long he's done it for -- the fact that the NFL destroyed those tapes quickly despite saying they would "get to the bottom of it" and the fact that they fail to give a good reason for doing so does seem extremely suspicious.

[riverside sluggers]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

A Jets fan season ticketholder is filing a lawsuit against Belichick and the Patriots. Because Jets ticketholders were deceived from 2000 to the present, 8 "fraudulent" games in his words... he and his lawyer have determined that $184.8 million is deserving to be paid for what is consumer fraud

[See Red]

Originally Posted by riverside sluggers

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

A Jets fan season ticketholder is filing a lawsuit against Belichick against the Patriots. Because Jets ticketholders were deceived from 2000 to the present, 8 fraudulent games in his words... he and his lawyer have determined that $184.8 million is deserving to be paid for what is consumer fraud

I hate frivolous lawsuits.

I hope they consider this vexatious litigation and he is unable to pursue any legal action in the future.

[YanksHater213]

qhat a fucking moron