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05-05-2007, 03:13 PM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
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Originally Posted by TGov
Either of those two or Moss before Ellsbury, I would hate to see Ellsbury get rested for no reason and be ruined...
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Why would being on the bench as a 4th OF ruin him? He would benefit from learning the league, and observing succesful major leaguers work habits etc. The kid is a big talent. He deserves to make it to the majors before the others. Moss can't be the 4th OF, because he is not a good fielder. He's below average. For a fourth OF, fielding ability is more important than hitting.
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05-05-2007, 03:24 PM
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#152 (permalink)
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
So he would be like an Adam Stern type guy for a while (someone who comes in to run and comes in late in the game for some quality D) ?
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05-05-2007, 04:06 PM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
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So he would be like an Adam Stern type guy for a while (someone who comes in to run and comes in late in the game for some quality D) ?
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No, he has quite a bit more offensive talent than Stern. He could get some starts if Crisp slumps or if one of the other OFs get injured. Right now, there is no need for an additional OF er. I was discussing it in the context of a need for a 4th OFer. If we need to call one up, it should be Ellsbury. I realize that there are roster considerations, so they may not want to place him on the 40 man roster, because they would have to drop someone.
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05-05-2007, 05:04 PM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
They should trade Ellsbury for a proven ML center fielder. I'm not confident in a prospect's ability to make the jump to the major leagues.
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05-05-2007, 05:13 PM
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#155 (permalink)
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
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Originally Posted by TheKilo
They should trade Ellsbury for a proven ML center fielder. I'm not confident in a prospect's ability to make the jump to the major leagues.
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Your sarcasm is noted. Ellsbury is the most talented position player in the system, so he should be the one that they hold onto. The others: Murphy, Moss etc are basically trading chips. The point is that very, very few players come up through the organization and make an immediate impact. It's up to the FO to figure out the one or two that will make it and keep only them. It's not an exact science and most organizations are wrong more often than not in making these predictions. That being said if Ellsbury could get you an Andruw Jones-type player under a long term contract, the FO would be foolish not to make the move for the established super star. Right now, there is not a young very talented CF that is under contract beyond this year.
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05-05-2007, 05:13 PM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
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Originally Posted by a700hitter
Your sarcasm is noted. Ellsbury is the most talented position player in the system, so he should be the one that they hold onto. The others: Murphy, Moss etc are basically trading chips. The point is that very, very few players come up through the organization and make an immediate impact. It's up to the FO to figure out the one or two that will make it and keep only them. It's not an exact science and most organizations are wrong more often than not in making these predictions. That being said if Ellsbury could get you an Andruw Jones-type player under a long term contract, the FO would be foolish not to make the move for the established super star. Right now, there is not a young very talented CF that is under contract beyond this year.
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Just messin with you.
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05-05-2007, 05:14 PM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
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Just messin with you.
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I know. 
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05-08-2007, 01:39 AM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
Ellsbury 2/4, RBI, 2 SB, 1 CS (apparently he stole second and tried to steal 3rd). This guy is crazy fast.
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05-08-2007, 01:48 AM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
This guy is the real deal. He has outstanding tools and he doesn't get intimidated. You know I give it straight about prospects, and it is seldom as favorable as the scouting reports. This kid is exciting.
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05-08-2007, 03:54 PM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
WHAT ABOUT JOSH HAMILTON . I THINK HE COULD FLOURISH HERE PLUS HES CHEAP
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05-08-2007, 03:56 PM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
WHAT DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ELLSBURY?
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05-08-2007, 03:58 PM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
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Originally Posted by Rdsxmbnt
WHAT DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ELLSBURY?
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sorry man i just like the guy . Ellsbury is gonna be a gem hopefully we get to see him this year
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05-08-2007, 05:52 PM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
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sorry man i just like the guy . Ellsbury is gonna be a gem hopefully we get to see him this year
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get a Brita and try to strain some stupid out of your water.
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05-09-2007, 08:03 AM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
Ellsbury is hitting .300 after taking an 0 for 4 last night.
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05-09-2007, 08:39 AM
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Re: Jacoby Ellsbury
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Originally Posted by adam123
WHAT ABOUT JOSH HAMILTON . I THINK HE COULD FLOURISH HERE PLUS HES CHEAP
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HE'S PROBABLY NOT CHEAP ANYMORE BECAUSE HE'S TEARING THE COVER OFF THE BALL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT
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