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Re: Clay Buchholz
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You don't really believe that Dustin Pedroia should be included with those elite players/prospects, do you?
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well melky and cano are in the list also 
Anyway it would seem far-fetched that Buchholz was near Hughes earlier this year but looking at him right now I dont think its a stretch at all. Buchholz is dominating.
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05-12-2007, 11:33 AM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
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The kid is fucking money. How bright it is to see in the future for us to possibly someday see a rotation of Beckett, Matsuzaka, Bucholz, Lester, Bowden (no particular order)
6 starts (1-1, 1.98 ERA)
34 innings, 22 Hits, 8 Runs (7 ER), 3 HRs, 4 Walks, 46 Ks
The kid is fucking money, he's dominated at each promotion he has gotten. Pace he's at we could be talking about him in the rotation to start off the 2008 season
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How will that compare against:
Santana, Wang, Mussina, Hughes and Pettitte
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05-12-2007, 11:40 AM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
yep sorry forgot our rotation is going to suck, ever talk positive about the sox?
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05-12-2007, 12:13 PM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
How does Santana, Zambrano, Beckett, Dice-K, Buchholz/Bowden/Lester sound 
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05-12-2007, 12:35 PM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
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Yeah, sorry, dont let the fact that he finished 2nd in CY voting last yr cloud your judgement.
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wang is overated , you'll be lucky if his ERA is below 4.50 this year
wang's oponants BA was 277 and hits per 9 IP was 9.60 , he was in jams all the time and got lucky to always get out of it , thats not gonna keep happening jacko
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05-12-2007, 01:33 PM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
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How will that compare against:
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Very, very well.
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05-12-2007, 01:36 PM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
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How will that compare against:
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05-12-2007, 01:57 PM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
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How will that compare against:
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When did Santana become a Yankee? I'm confused.
How will Santana, Wang, Mussina, Hughes and Pettitte compare agains:
Matsuzaka, Beckett, Peavy, Lester, Buchholz?
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05-12-2007, 02:31 PM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
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Originally Posted by riverside sluggers
The kid is fucking money. How bright it is to see in the future for us to possibly someday see a rotation of Beckett, Matsuzaka, Bucholz, Lester, Bowden (no particular order)
6 starts (1-1, 1.98 ERA)
34 innings, 22 Hits, 8 Runs (7 ER), 3 HRs, 4 Walks, 46 Ks
The kid is fucking money, he's dominated at each promotion he has gotten. Pace he's at we could be talking about him in the rotation to start off the 2008 season
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This statement is as ridiculous as a Yankee fan posting:
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How bright it is to see in the future for us to possibly someday see a rotation of Wang, Hughes, Rasner, Karstens and Igawa(no particular order)
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My answer is the same to both. It ain't gonna happen,.
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05-12-2007, 02:39 PM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
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When did Santana become a Yankee? I'm confused.
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05-12-2007, 02:40 PM
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Jeez I dont think you should be allowed to join in celebrating when these studs get some Ws up here in the majors for us. So Im guessing you think Bucholz is a Kyle Snyder in waiting
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05-12-2007, 02:48 PM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
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Jeez I dont think you should be allowed to join in celebrating when these studs get some Ws up here in the majors for us. So Im guessing you think Bucholz is a Kyle Snyder in waiting
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I'll be happy if one of these guys is holding down a rotation spot 2 to 3 years from now on a play-off contender. Your expectations are a bit unrealistic. When is the last time the Red Sox had 3 homegrown effective starters in the rotation? The odds are really long that we will ever see all 3 holding down spots for the Sox. I'll be happy if one makes it.
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05-12-2007, 02:50 PM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
So its best to think that every prospect that they draft will never start in the bigs?
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05-12-2007, 02:53 PM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
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So its best to think that every prospect that they draft will never start in the bigs?
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Why must you view everything in an all or nothing fashion?
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05-12-2007, 02:55 PM
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Re: Clay Buchholz
Because you shoot every single prospect down, even Pedroia whos been carrying a hot bat as late and been flashing some nice leather. You like Ellsbury but would still like the Sox to bypass him and sign a free agent center fielder. Sorry I dont think that Bucholz can be disregarded so quickly
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