Ryan Phillips - Talksox

riverside sluggers · 02-19-2006, 03:39 PM

Age: 21
Born: May 29, 1984
Resides: Altus, OK
Height: 6-4
Weight: 210
Bats: Left
Throws: Left
Drafted: 11th round, 2004
College: Barton County CC
High School: Altus HS
ETA: 2009

Ryan Phillips is quite the 2004 drafted starting pitcher who has flown under the radar. His 2004 season was delayed due to minor frays found in his labrum. Like in Manny Delcarmen's case, Phillips was impressive coming off of surgery. Hence being named to the NYPL All Star team. I'll give any updates as they come.

2005 (Lowell)- 14 starts, 7-2 record, 2.28 ERA, 61 Ks in 67 innings pitched.
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Scouting Report: Three-quarters arm slot. Fastball typically hits high 80s, but occasionally tops out in the low 90s. Mixes in his change-up well. Missed 2004 pro season after signing early and finding minor frays in his labrum.

CrespoBlows · 02-19-2006, 05:01 PM

I don't see this guy as anything except, maybe a set up guy. His fastball isn't good enough to fool major league hitters. He is still young, so this should be an interesting year for Phillips.

jsinger121 · 02-19-2006, 05:58 PM

he is lefthanded so he will get an opportunity more than other pitchers.

ClayBuchholzIsDaFuture · 02-21-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CrespoBlows

I don't see this guy as anything except, maybe a set up guy. His fastball isn't good enough to fool major league hitters. He is still young, so this should be an interesting year for Phillips.

Low 90's FB from a lefty is not "good enough"?

Cityofchampions33 · 02-21-2006, 05:02 PM

Well, it doesn't mean he won't fool ML hitters but he'll have to work a bit harder and be a bit smarter. Yeah, just because he doesn't have tremendous velocity doesn't mean he won't make it, like Bronson Arroyo (though Bronson has tremendous stuff)

CrespoBlows · 02-21-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ClayBuchholzIsDaFuture

Low 90's FB from a lefty is not "good enough"?

That's all he basically has. His changeup is below average, his curveball isn't refined, nor any other secondary pitch. His fastball might fool some A hitters, but not any big leaguers.

Look at Abe Alvarez for example, he has great command, but his stuff is below average. He probably won't be any thing more than MR fodder.

riverside sluggers · 02-21-2006, 06:53 PM

Of course his pitches are not refined and he cant fool major leaguers, a lot of that has to do with the fact he just had his first season in single A league. Probably enter there again, with a Double A promotion possible if he produces anything close to 05 stats. He's just 21 & with Sox's farm directors, I believe he will keep moving in the right direction.

CrespoBlows · 02-21-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by riverside sluggers

Of course his pitches are not refined and he cant fool major leaguers, a lot of that has to do with the fact he just had his first season in single A league. Probably enter there again, with a Double A promotion possible if he produces anything close to 05 stats. He's just 21 & with Sox's farm directors, I believe he will keep moving in the right direction.

I think you misunderstood of what I said.

Phillips' fastball will NEVER fool any big league hitter. He has absolutely no other pitches besides a weak changeup, and a 87 mph fastball. This guy is Abe Alvarez, except his fastball is about two mph faster.

jsinger121 · 02-21-2006, 07:20 PM

and tom glavines fastball is real spectacular is well. he is only on his way to 300 wins. you don't need to throw hard to be successful. its all about pitch location and changing speeds. that said i don't think ryan philips will be tom glavine but i also wouldn't give up on a lefthander who is still 21.

riverside sluggers · 02-21-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CrespoBlows

I think you misunderstood of what I said.

Phillips' fastball will NEVER fool any big league hitter. He has absolutely no other pitches besides a weak changeup, and a 87 mph fastball. This guy is Abe Alvarez, except his fastball is about two mph faster.

No I understood full well what you said. You are taking the scouting report on his pitches in his single A stage, thinking that will nothing improve making him basically a career minor leaguer. With more experience & grooming, he can gain speed on his pitches, adapt new pitches, etc.

We'll see how it goes this season. If Im wrong about him in the end, fine I'll be the one to admit .

Cityofchampions33 · 02-21-2006, 11:45 PM

yeah, it's not like anyone though Papelbon would be what he might become very soon, he went in the 6th round. A lot of shit can change from now until later, as he just sarts to develop.

jsinger121 · 02-21-2006, 11:49 PM

4th round actually but he was the 6th red sox pick because of supplementals.

MC Hammer · 02-22-2006, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jsinger121

and tom glavines fastball is real spectacular is well. he is only on his way to 300 wins. you don't need to throw hard to be successful. its all about pitch location and changing speeds. that said i don't think ryan philips will be tom glavine but i also wouldn't give up on a lefthander who is still 21.

Yeah, but theres a big difference here. Glavin could thread a needle from 100 feet away. He had outstanding accuracy that was so good it often fooled umpires. Plus he had more than a minimially effective change up to go along with his fastball.

The only similarity you could draw between these two pitchers is that they're both left handed.

jsinger121 · 02-22-2006, 08:05 AM

i never said he was glavine.....im saying that glavine does not throw hard and that pitchers who don't throw can be successful if they have control and can spot there pitches. philips is still young enough where he can develop so I wouldn't get throw him to the curb yet.

CrespoBlows · 02-22-2006, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cityofchampions33

yeah, it's not like anyone though Papelbon would be what he might become very soon, he went in the 6th round. A lot of shit can change from now until later, as he just sarts to develop.

Big difference.

Papelbon had an outstanding fastball and complemented it with a good changeup and great slider. Phillips has an average fastball, and no other good secondary pitch to go along with it.