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Old 01-25-2007, 04:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here is the list thus far. The only guy they seemed to like was Doubront

50.) Jordan Craft, P
49.) Jose Capellan, P
48.) Kris Negron, IF
47.) Mike Jones, 1B
46.) Josh Papelbon, P
45.) Jon Still, C
44.) Zach Daegas, OF
43.) Dustin Richardson, P
42.) Felix Doubront, P
41.) Tim Cox, P
40.) Yahmed Yema, OF
39.) Mark Wagner, C
38.) Barry Hertzler, P
37.) Jeremy West, 1B/DH
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Old 01-25-2007, 08:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Doubront might be good if he adds a little bit onto that fastball. He is only 19 I think, so its possible.
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Old 01-25-2007, 08:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think Mike Jones could have a good season and perhaps show us something (you know, relative to his place on this list) worth seeing. Other than that your assessment seems fine Jacksonian. I think that would not be accurate for the top 25 prospects, but 37-50, okay.
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Old 01-25-2007, 08:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hetzler at #38 is incredible, he is border line that he will make the Sox minor league teams.
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Old 01-25-2007, 08:54 PM   #5 (permalink)
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this is scout.com, thats all.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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50.) Jordan Craft, P
49.) Jose Capellan, P
48.) Kris Negron, IF
47.) Mike Jones, 1B
46.) Josh Papelbon, P
45.) Jon Still, C
44.) Zach Daegas, OF
43.) Dustin Richardson, P
42.) Felix Doubront, P
41.) Tim Cox, P
40.) Yahmed Yema, OF
39.) Mark Wagner, C
38.) Barry Hertzler, P
37.) Jeremy West, 1B/DH
36.) Mike Rozier, P
35.) Randy Beam, P

Rozier and Beam are lefties. Rozier a power lefty with little control. Beam a soft tossing lefty out of the pen who sounds like Halama.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
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What list is this? Doubront was ranked 18th by BA this year and I think he certainly deserves to be ahead of 42nd regardless of the validity one puts on BA's rankings.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
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What list is this? Doubront was ranked 18th by BA this year and I think he certainly deserves to be ahead of 42nd regardless of the validity one puts on BA's rankings.
Scout values level more than ceiling. BA favors ceiling. I subscribe to BA, but they've only listed the Sox top-10 and Doubront isn't in it.
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Old 02-01-2007, 12:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
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scout.com has multiple divisions. The red sox division is diehard.com. Pinstripes plus seems to have a pretty good mix of Ceiling and Level while leaving out the DSL kids sans Montero. Diehard does certainly value level more than ceiling and they dont include any DSL kids either.
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DIEHARD 2007 TOP 50 PROSPECTS 50.) Jordan Craft, P
49.) Jose Capellan, P
48.) Kris Negron, IF
47.) Mike Jones, 1B
46.) Josh Papelbon, P
45.) Jon Still, C
44.) Zach Daegas, OF
43.) Dustin Richardson, P
42.) Felix Doubront, P
41.) Tim Cox, P
40.) Yahmed Yema, OF
39.) Mark Wagner, C
38.) Barry Hertzler, P
37.) Jeremy West, 1B/DH
36.) Mike Rozier, P
35.) Randy Beam, P
34.) Jonathan Egan, C
33.) Reid Engel, OF
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Old 02-01-2007, 06:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Randy Beam is a pitcher who may had top out in AA, for sure he isn't a top 50 prospect, Jon Egan is some where around 25-30 as a prospect, Jeremy West isn't a top 50 prospect, Reid Engel is somewhere in the 40's as a prospect, the only one that they may have right is Michael Rozier who is 30-35 as a prospect.
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Old 02-04-2007, 07:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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50.) Jordan Craft, P
49.) Jose Capellan, P
48.) Kris Negron, IF
47.) Mike Jones, 1B
46.) Josh Papelbon, P
45.) Jon Still, C
44.) Zach Daegas, OF
43.) Dustin Richardson, P
42.) Felix Doubront, P
41.) Tim Cox, P
40.) Yahmed Yema, OF
39.) Mark Wagner, C
38.) Barry Hertzler, P
37.) Jeremy West, 1B/DH
36.) Mike Rozier, P
35.) Randy Beam, P
34.) Jonathan Egan, C
33.) Reid Engel, OF
32.) Christian Lara, SS
31.) Luis Soto, OF
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:53 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Lara at #32 isn't that far off and because of Soto's disappointing season can understand the drop off, however i have them rated higher.
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Scout values level more than ceiling. BA favors ceiling. I subscribe to BA, but they've only listed the Sox top-10 and Doubront isn't in it.

Yeah, he was #18 in their prospect handbook. I understand the differences between Scout and BA now. Thanks for the clarification fellas. I think a combination of the two lists probably gives the most accurate view.

Personally, I prefer BA's list if it deals considerably more with ceiling than with level (since level will be dealt with in time by players moving up as they age).
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