Lancaster JetHawks Thread

[example1]

Instead of putting things in each individual thread I figured I would start this and let peole update it whenever they can. If you don't like the format feel free to update the individual pages:

The Good:
1B: Aaron Bates: 3/4 with 2 2B and 1 HR tonight.
So far: 24AB, 9R, 9H, 3 2B, 3 HR, 9 RBI, 5 BB
.375/.467/.875/1.342

The Bad: Another bad start by Daniel Bard.
This season he's pitched 4.1 IP and given up 7 ER.

Apr 11: 1.2 IP: 3 ER, 6 BB!!!, 1 K

Apr 6: 2.2 IP: 4 ER on 6 H with 1 K

So far a 14.54 ERA for one of our first round picks from last season.

[CrespoBlows]

I know a 14.52 ERA is really bad, but that ballpark is like playing on the Moon.

If someone throws a shutout there, they should give him the Cy Young.

[riverside sluggers]

Aaron Bates is a slugging 1st baseman with a lot of promise, I believe soxprospects.com likens him to a Justin Morneau type. No doubt I'll be tracking his progress up the minor system

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by example1

Instead of putting things in each individual thread I figured I would start this and let peole update it whenever they can. If you don't like the format feel free to update the individual pages:

The Good:
1B: Aaron Bates: 3/4 with 2 2B and 1 HR tonight.
So far: 24AB, 9R, 9H, 3 2B, 3 HR, 9 RBI, 5 BB
.375/.467/.875/1.342

The Bad: Another bad start by Daniel Bard.
This season he's pitched 4.1 IP and given up 7 ER.

Apr 11: 1.2 IP: 3 ER, 6 BB!!!, 1 K

Apr 6: 2.2 IP: 4 ER on 6 H with 1 K

So far a 14.54 ERA for one of our first round picks from last season.

With some pitchers, results are imperative because their stuff hits their ceiling very quickly. With others, like Bard, you look for his walk totals to go down and eventually he will harness it. Like I said in the past, this kid is a long term project.

And for those who thought Bard was the better selection vs Kennedy havent seen the kid pitch recently. I think they slotted out correctly.

[Papelbon58]

Bates is a possibility to play first at some point next season for the Sox. Morneau is the comparison I have seen the most. He really has kind of been quietly going about his business so far in his career, but he seems to be breaking out this season.

[CrespoBlows]

Justin Morneau?

Seriously, Justin Morneau?

The 2006 MVP Justin Morneau?

The same Justin Morneau who hit 34 HR's in 2006?

Who has told you that Aaron Bates resembles a Justin Morneau? Some guy at Fenway?

No one has EVER likened Aaron Bates to another Justin Morneau. I saw the Conor Jackson comparison, which is reasonable. For you to begin to compare the two is flat out dishonesty, at best, and probably stupidity.

Aaron Bates is 23? So, when he was 22 he was battling ACC pitchers to the tune of a .354/.479/.560/1.039 with aluminum bats.

Justin Morneau was fucking terrorizing AAA pitchers to the tune of a 1 HR ever 13 AB's.

If Aaron Bates ever hits 22 HR's in a season, I will deposit 1,000 dollars into everyone's bank account.

[CrespoBlows]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

And for those who thought Bard was the better selection vs Kennedy havent seen the kid pitch recently. I think they slotted out correctly.

Gom's assesment of you is looking more correct with every passing day.

[example1]

All this Bard discussion aside, let's talk about an established prospect:

Michael Bowden's start today:
5.2 2H 0R 0ER 1BB 5K

[riverside sluggers]

Aaron Bates keeps it up

Stats through first 12 games

14 for 46 (.304 avg) (.476 OBP) (.652 SLG) (1.128 OPS) 4 Doubles, 4 HRs, 11 RBIs, 14 Runs, 14 Walks, 12 Ks

http://www.minorleaguebasebal

[seabeachfred]

Since I live in So Cal I have to get my ass over to Lancaster and see these guys for myself. I'm intrigued by Aaron Bates but I think it is more than a little premature to start comparing him to anybody who has already established themselves. Besides, I thought Lars Anderson was the guy we were hopeful to groom to be our regular first baseman for 12-15 years or so. The problem I have seen the past two years is that our prospects have a good first year and then regress badly. I saw with Corsaletti, Natale, Moss, and Lowrie the past two seasons. Somewhere the progress of our young players is breaking down. I certainly hope this is reversed as they move up the ladder.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Originally Posted by seabeachfred

Since I live in So Cal I have to get my ass over to Lancaster and see these guys for myself. I'm intrigued by Aaron Bates but I think it is more than a little premature to start comparing him to anybody who has already established themselves. Besides, I thought Lars Anderson was the guy we were hopeful to groom to be our regular first baseman for 12-15 years or so. The problem I have seen the past two years is that our prospects have a good first year and then regress badly. I saw with Corsaletti, Natale, Moss, and Lowrie the past two seasons. Somewhere the progress of our young players is breaking down. I certainly hope this is reversed as they move up the ladder.

Its funny but the same thing happened to Hanley Ramirez. He did not exactly light up AA Portland then went to the Marlins and put together a stellar season. I wonder if he would have been the same player with the Red Sox. One thing is for sure....he probably would have spent another season or two in the minors. Dustin Pedroia was advancing at a faster pace and is just starting this season.

[One Red Seat]

Bowden settles in after a rocky 1st that saw him give up 3 H, 1 BB, 2 R, 0 K.....

Final Line: 5.1 IP, 7H, 2R, 2BB, 4K

Rates: 1.71 ERA, 8.14 K/9, 2.57 BB/9, 7.71 H/9, 0.42 HR/9

[example1]

How about Bowden tonight:

6IP 5H 0R 0ER 0BB 9K, with a 1.91 ERA this year in the hitter friendly California League. Kid will probably be at AA before the end of the season.

[riverside sluggers]

Damn keep it up Bates, a promotion to Double A is in his sights

28 games- 31 for 106 (.292 avg) (.438 OBP) (.613 SLG) (1.051 ops) 8 Doubles, Triple, 8 HRs, 27 RBIs, 23 Runs, 24 Walks, 30 Ks

[riverside sluggers]

33 games- 36 for 124 (.290 avg) (.441 OBP) (.605 SLG) (1.046 ops) 10 Doubles, Triple, 9 HRs, 33 RBIs, 30 Runs, 29 Walks, 33 Ks