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06-08-2007, 07:45 AM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
Baseball drafts arent like football, its not that rare for teams to draft first picks with players already set in at those positions in the majors. We're still talking about a kid whos just 18, with the Sox system he probably wont sniff the majors for another 4 years or so. A lot can happen from now until then. Sox still win if Pedroia and Ellsbury are showing no signs of budging at that time, that way if Dent is a a top prospect they can deal him off in a lucrative trade.
They even got Hunter Morris who's best position is 1st base, while Aaron Bates and Lars Anderson are both in Single A
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06-08-2007, 08:30 AM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
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Originally Posted by riverside sluggers
Baseball drafts isnt like football, its not that rare for teams to draft first picks with players already set in at those positions in the majors. We're still talking about a kid whos just 18, with the Sox system he probably wont sniff the majors for another 4 years or so. A lot can happen from now until then. Sox still win if Pedroia and Ellsbury are showing no signs of budging at that time, that way if Dent is a a top prospect they can deal him off in a lucrative trade.
They even got Hunter Morris who's best position is 1st base, while Aaron Bates and Lars Anderson are both in Single A
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I think the Morris pick is solid because if a guy can hit for power, they'll find a spot. I just think it is a huge risk when you draft a kid out of HS who really shows no power projection and is solely a speed demon.
Those are the type of kids you shy away from out of HS and then take them if they show they can handle it in college.
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06-08-2007, 10:03 AM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
Where are you getting a "no power" projection? From the report you listed and the one at BA, Dent has pop in his stroke, it's just not his best tool. That would be alarming if he were profiled as a corner player, but he's not. He's projected as a leadoff type hitter who will play somewhere up the middle with plus speed. Add pop to that type of player (at 18), and it's nowhere near as bad as you are trying to portray it.
Also, you should know as well as anyone that you don't draft on need in the MLB draft. You take the best player available that you think you can sign. Most of these guys don't make it, so redundancy is needed, and if redundancy works out to where you have a performer on the big club and a hot prospect just below him, then you have real value in the trade market.
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06-08-2007, 10:11 AM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
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Where are you getting a "no power" projection? From the report you listed and the one at BA, Dent has pop in his stroke, it's just not his best tool. That would be alarming if he were profiled as a corner player, but he's not. He's projected as a leadoff type hitter who will play somewhere up the middle with plus speed. Add pop to that type of player (at 18), and it's nowhere near as bad as you are trying to portray it.
Also, you should know as well as anyone that you don't draft on need in the MLB draft. You take the best player available that you think you can sign. Most of these guys don't make it, so redundancy is needed, and if redundancy works out to where you have a performer on the big club and a hot prospect just below him, then you have real value in the trade market.
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I completely agree that you go by best available. Maybe it is just a pet peeve of mine, but I really dont like drafting kids out of HS when their biggest aspect is speed. Call it CJ Henry syndrome.
Those types of players are better served to play in college and see if they can translate that speed and potential into consistent hitting.
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06-08-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
Sox 6th round pick- Anthony Rizzo- 1b- out of HS
All I know is that he is an early commit to FAU.
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06-08-2007, 12:40 PM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
204. Anthony Rizzo, 6-3 220, L/L 1B, M Stoneman Douglas HS Florida Sun Sentinel 234. David Mailman, 6-2 180, L/L 1B, Providence Sr HS North Carloina - Obvious fun with the name if he makes it Impact Baseball 264. Adam Mills, R/R RHP, 6-0 190, UNC-Charlotte (senior) Baseball Analysts 294. Kade Keowen, R/R CF, 6-5 215, LSU-Eunice (J3) All Things Valley League 324. Kenneth Roque, L/R SS, 5-11 162, PR Baseball Academy I got nothing 354. Thomas Pressly, R/R RHP, 6-3 175, Marcus HS, Texas
News is getting hard to find, and I need to get back to work, others please pick up if you like.
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06-08-2007, 12:53 PM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
234. David Mailman, 6-2 180 L/L 1B, Providence Sr. HS.
Watched the scouting video. He looked like he was being tried out in the OF. I like his release and he has the makings of a pretty accurate and strong arm. Could be an OFer in the sox system. His swing has no drift, which is very good, but he doesnt stay tall throughout the swing and breaks down at the end. His weight comes forward rather awkwardly during the actual swing and he dives over the plate. Interesting pick. As with the yankee pick, this kid is quite raw. As should be expected btw out of a HS kid.
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06-08-2007, 01:05 PM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
sick name
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06-08-2007, 01:08 PM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
264. Adam Mills RHP UNC Charlotte 6'0" 190lbs
no video, no idea. Will get back to this.
14-2 1.01ERA 141K in 142IP 27BB .188BAA wow.
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06-08-2007, 01:15 PM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
294. Kade Koewen 6'5" 215 LSU@Eunice R/R CF
No video, but at 6'5, I can imagine that this kid has some serious power projection.
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06-08-2007, 01:21 PM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
ORS, you got anything on these guys?
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06-08-2007, 01:24 PM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
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ORS, you got anything on these guys?
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I keep editting my post above. Keowen sounds like a potential diamond in the rough from the link.
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06-08-2007, 01:24 PM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
I see. Are you just googling?
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06-08-2007, 01:29 PM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
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I see. Are you just googling?
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Pretty much. I'm not dishing out the $300+ Prospects Plus wants while my BA subscription is still good. I might do it next year.
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06-08-2007, 01:32 PM
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Re: Sox 2007 Draft
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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch
264. Adam Mills RHP UNC Charlotte 6'0" 190lbs
no video, no idea. Will get back to this.
14-2 1.01ERA 141K in 142IP 27BB .188BAA wow.
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A-10 competition, so, you know, grain of salt and all.
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