The Top prospects in the Red Sox system. - Page 3 - Talksox

scaffolds · 08-27-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by example1

Yeah dude, I don't care whether you're a 'real' scout, or a ' fake scout', whether you have fans at soxprospects.com or not, I appreciate your posts and feel that you are a welcome addition to this site. I like soxprospects, quite a bit actually because of their dilligence in updating and giving a good idea of where the system is at, but I don't see how that excludes me from liking your posts. Kudos.

It well known the stuff about being a fake scout, is a way for the people at Soxprospect to try to put me down, it doesn't surprised me from those people at that board. but if they want to live a lied let them do, I enjoy talking about the Red Sox prospects and sharing my knowledge with my fellow Red Sox prospect followers.

scaffolds · 08-27-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by riverside sluggers

Not surprised at all that catcher John Otness isnt in here. Ive seen him in several games up in Portland, quickly gave him the nickname of "Butterfingers". He also displayed bad batting skills. Just something thats been on my mind for the past week

Moving on. Scaff, what are your thoughts on Portland fan favorite Iggy Suarez? I say fan favorite becase he gets the most cheers when he is playing in the game. Obviously if he makes the majors it will just be as a utility infielder

You're right Otness isn't much of a prospect, Suarez defense its well known, his bat its the key, however he will be 27 yrs early next year, his chances of reaching the ML are slim, it depends what are the Sox plans for Lowrie in 2008, if they keep him as a short stop Suarez will return to Portland if they decided that Lowrie its better as a second baseman ( like i believe he is) Suarez wil be Pawtucket SS in 2008.

carltonfiskga · 10-03-2007, 10:25 AM

Scaffs,

you still around? HAven't seen an update in awhile and I find most of them very informative from you.

A couple of questions for you.

IS there any further updates from the latin america free agent market or has basically all the top signings been signed and accounted for by most of the MLB clubs?

What is your take on the signing out of Taiwan of that 18 year old catcher the other day? You know anything about him?

scaffolds · 10-07-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by carltonfiskga

Scaffs,

you still around? HAven't seen an update in awhile and I find most of them very informative from you.

A couple of questions for you.

IS there any further updates from the latin america free agent market or has basically all the top signings been signed and accounted for by most of the MLB clubs?

What is your take on the signing out of Taiwan of that 18 year old catcher the other day? You know anything about him?

Thank you, I will be around from time to time, I don't know much about Chia-Chu Chen, my connections in the Pacific Rim scoutings is very limeted. The second phase of International players signing is underway and will run to the end of the year. I will have some names of players who the Red Sox have signed in a few weeks.

scaffolds · 10-10-2007, 06:53 PM

I was Email a few days ago asking me why I had Jed Lowrie ranked as the organization #11 prospect and the reason is this. Lowrie doesn't have soft hands and his hands are erractic and his lack of range and arm strength doesn't compesate for.

Lowrie had a very good between Portland and Pawtucket, but his bat is very streaky and none of his ofensive tools are above average.

BA has said that Lowrie could play SS at the ML level on a regular basis, but the issue is that BA based his information mainly on league managers and coaches and while they are baseball people they don't follow over all details like a scout would, BA also consults scouts but no more than 2 or 3 of them by league. Baseball scouting is a unique practice and one where there could be multiple scouting reports or opinion in a player, in general the scouting report on Lowrie is that he could be an ideal second hitter in a line up while playing second base, but that he couldn't play SS at the ML level day in day out.

In conclusion the Red Sox are going to have to make decision some time in 2008 which way they are going to when it comes to second base. Lowrie while a better athlete than Pedroia isn't the answer over Pedroia and because of it will be traded for a need.

jacksonianmarch · 10-11-2007, 09:58 AM

It would be interesting, though, if the sox decided to make a big splash by dealing Pedroia and then go with the rookie Lowrie while upgrading somewhere else.

ksushi · 10-11-2007, 01:15 PM

Very doubtful, though.

bosoxnation07 · 10-11-2007, 04:41 PM

I can't see Theo parting with the poster child of the farm system. Youk maybe, but not Pedroia.

TheKilo · 10-11-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bosoxnation07

I can't see Theo parting with the poster child of the farm system. Youk maybe, but not Pedroia.

Kinda like when he didn't trade Nomar, right?

One Red Seat · 10-11-2007, 08:45 PM

What exactly are we talking about that makes Lowrie suitable for 2B but inadequate at SS? The requirements for range are about the same. Good hands are equally valuable. If it's anything other than arm, I'd like to know what it is, and while I've not seen him, most of what I've read suggests his arm is fine for the position.

With that in mind, what would the cutoff point be in offensive vs. defensive value? With the way his bat is performing, he'd have to be pretty fucking shitty in the field to not warrant consideration of keeping him and playing him up the middle with Pedroia.

jacksonianmarch · 10-11-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKilo

Kinda like when he didn't trade Nomar, right?

if the right name comes along, Pedroia is gone. Same with us, if the right name comes along, its bye bye Cano.

example1 · 10-12-2007, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheKilo

Kinda like when he didn't trade Nomar, right?

We're talking about two different kinds of homegrown here TheKilo.

The current FO puts ultimate emphasis on OBP as a measure of plate discipline. Nomar was not a disciplined hitter. He simply wasn't. He was great for a few years but one can see from Pedroia that he will be getting on base consistently for years to come at a VERY reasonable rate.

Of course his name will eventually come up as trade bait, but the comparison to Nomar is a bit off-base, IMO.

TheKilo · 10-12-2007, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by example1

We're talking about two different kinds of homegrown here TheKilo.

The current FO puts ultimate emphasis on OBP as a measure of plate discipline. Nomar was not a disciplined hitter. He simply wasn't. He was great for a few years but one can see from Pedroia that he will be getting on base consistently for years to come at a VERY reasonable rate.

Of course his name will eventually come up as trade bait, but the comparison to Nomar is a bit off-base, IMO.

Disagree.

If OBP is so important why do we have Coco and Lugo in the lineup?

rician blast · 10-12-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by One Red Seat

With the way his bat is performing, he'd have to be pretty fucking shitty in the field to not warrant consideration of keeping him and playing him up the middle with Pedroia.

I assume you mean that Peroia would move to SS? I don't like that idea, just don't see him as a long-term solution at short.

jacksonianmarch · 10-12-2007, 12:21 PM

I am sure the brass has seen more than anyone else on this board has. And with Theo, you know defense plays in the equation. Plus, you already have a shortstop who, while he isnt a total liability, is completely untradeable at this point. I think the brass are going to sit back and see what happens. If a sweet deal comes along for a starter and they want Pedroia, dont be surprised if Duddy hits the road. It is nice to have those kind of options.