Kerry Wood on Boston's radar - Page 2 - Talksox

**ksushi** · 11-19-2007, 01:50 PM

Wonderful contribution.

I mean, when you don't have to count on them whats the big deal? I don't think you can be considered a gagger if you fail at filling a MR role... Was Seanez a gagger? I don't think so, his role wasn't important, he sucked, we DFA'd. Moving on. The question with a Kerry Wood is if you are prepared to pay a premium for his upside, and eat it if the risk wins out over the reward. It would be a luxury to have a talent like Wood in our bullpen knowing full well that if he does hit the DL and does nothing for us, it doesn't cripple our staff like it did Chicago's because we have enough arms to get the job done.

CrespoBlows · 11-19-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

ya
if he stays healthy he could be another eric gagne....
fuck kerry wood
he and prior, with games 6-7 theres for the taking in wrigley,against a 25M payroll from miami,
owe the entire city of chicago an apology
keep these gaggers away from the youngsters we have

Wood in the postseason - 3.79 ERA

yankees228 · 11-19-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrespoBlows

Wood in the postseason - 3.79 ERA

Which includes pitching a gem in the deciding game 5 of the 2003 DS in ATL.

jacksonianmarch · 11-19-2007, 09:03 PM

Kerry Wood is not a guy you go out and get if you need pen help. Think about it. The sox have a 3 headed monster in the pen with paps/oki/manny. Throw in the likelihood that Timlin is coming back and the probability that Lopez has a spot and you have 5 guys taking up spot. Then factor in that Tavarez is back and there are 6 spots right there. With guys like Hansen, Hughes, and others waiting, and with the fact that 4 of your pitchers are considered innings eating kinds of starters, what is the utility in locking up 7 spots in the pen in the event that you want to go to 14 position players and only 11 pen arms. If I were the sox, Wood would be so far from my mind, that I would let some other team take the chance.

Consider that he stays healthy, he will need work to be useful and effective. And how much work will he get when the bridge from the 6th on is set?

And if he comes in and eats a spot away from a NR invitee, how much would that benefit you should he go down? Essentially, the only way to take on Wood and be benefitted by him would be to get him and use him a lot. And a team like the sox doesnt need to do that.

Jayhawk Bill · 11-19-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Kerry Wood is not a guy you go out and get if you need pen help. Think about it. The sox have a 3 headed monster in the pen with paps/oki/manny. Throw in the likelihood that Timlin is coming back and the probability that Lopez has a spot and you have 5 guys taking up spot. Then factor in that Tavarez is back and there are 6 spots right there. With guys like Hansen, Hughes, and others waiting, and with the fact that 4 of your pitchers are considered innings eating kinds of starters, what is the utility in locking up 7 spots in the pen in the event that you want to go to 14 position players and only 11 pen arms. If I were the sox, Wood would be so far from my mind, that I would let some other team take the chance.

Consider that he stays healthy, he will need work to be useful and effective. And how much work will he get when the bridge from the 6th on is set?

And if he comes in and eats a spot away from a NR invitee, how much would that benefit you should he go down? Essentially, the only way to take on Wood and be benefitted by him would be to get him and use him a lot. And a team like the sox doesnt need to do that.

I'd take a chance on Wood for the right price.

1) Lopez is gone; Timlin may be gone. Boston's bullpen can count on Papelbon, Okajima and Delcarmen, but that leaves 3-4 slots open. Boston needs at least eight pitchers for 6-7 slots; there's room for Wood.

2) Wood doesn't need frequent use. He did better with infrequent use. All of his runs in 2007 were allowed on just one day's rest, save for one outing in Coors Field against the late-season Rockies. He had no trouble going two innings--his struggle in 2007 was pitching on short rest, reasonable for an ex-starter converting to the pen.

3) Kerry Wood still strikes out over nine men per game. In fact, the small sample size of 2007 could be removed from the heart of his career as a starter. Wood is still second all-time in K/9 rate per Baseball Reference, and everything about his pitching--save about 3 mph of velocity--is right out of his prime.

You ask how much Wood would benefit Boston were he to go down. I counter, how much would it help Boston were he to hold up, allowing opposing batters roughly a .200/.300/.300 batting line? Okajima would become the lefty, and Wood would become the set-up guy, and baseball historians would someday marvel that Wood and Papelbon once pitched together for a year before Wood moved, Eckersley-style, to the second half of his HOF career.

I'll acknowledge it'd be a gamble. I'd take the chance for a few million dollars to sign him for a year...I'd pay more for a contract with a team option second year.

**ksushi** · 11-20-2007, 12:22 AM

Jacko,

The Sox don't need bullpen help. That is why I would take a high-priced flier on wood.

playjacoby46 · 11-20-2007, 07:08 PM

yeah it seems like he likes the big stage based on past performances with chicago. if the price is right why not take a shot on him? i like it, go for him.

zackredsox · 11-23-2007, 10:46 PM

I think I'd be happier if they signed Kerry Underwood.

Coco's Disciples · 11-23-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by zackredsox

I think I'd be happier if they signed Kerry Underwood.

I doubt she's very good at baseball.

**schillingouttheks** · 11-24-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by zackredsox

I think I'd be happier if they signed Kerry Underwood.

Carrie*

Give the woman some respect.

TheKilo · 11-24-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by schillingouttheks

Carrie*

Give the woman some respect.

I'd give her respect.

All night long.

**schillingouttheks** · 11-25-2007, 06:25 PM

I was waiting for someone to jump on the "respect" that she, um, "deserved."

das11209 · 11-26-2007, 01:03 PM

Cubs resign Kerry - Carrie may still be available.
http://rotoworld.com/content/HeadLin...=MLB&hl=226634

Mr Crunchy · 11-29-2007, 08:36 AM

why are we gambling here?
i am of the mindset that pitching wins,we have depth for the 1st time in our lives at this position??

you take the 3.79 postseason era and translate that to the american league (5+) and you got a stiff,a complete fucking stiff under pressure.
4 years later hes a gamble?
how many surgeries has he had?
how many years has he been shut down early?

i gamble with the intent on winning
do you guys who like wood play cards??

TheKilo · 11-29-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Crunchy

why are we gambling here?
i am of the mindset that pitching wins,we have depth for the 1st time in our lives at this position??

you take the 3.79 postseason era and translate that to the american league (5+) and you got a stiff,a complete fucking stiff under pressure.
4 years later hes a gamble?
how many surgeries has he had?
how many years has he been shut down early?

i gamble with the intent on winning
do you guys who like wood play cards??

He signed for Piniero money and his upside to Piniero is so much higher.

Ever hear of the concept of high risk, high reward?