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01-20-2008, 07:22 PM
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General BS
Sloooow time of yr... thought this might spark a little conversation...
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Padres GM Kevin Towers was very frank in his comments about the team's rejected long-term overtures toward shortstop Khalil Greene. Towers brought a three or four year proposal to Greene but does not expect anything to get done. He stated Greene's health and possible desire to be on the East Coast as factors.
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JayHawk mentioned a little ways back a possible, Lugo+Crisp for Greene, or something along those lines.
What does everyone think? Greene wanting to be on the East coast, and given Towers and Theo's chummy nature could lead to an unforseen deal.
I for one do it. JayHawk provided Greenes splits and SD home field kills his numbers. Playing in Fenway he could easilt hit 30 HR and play as good of D as Lugo.
Just putting it out there for thought...
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01-20-2008, 10:47 PM
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Re: General BS
Khalil Greene hitting 30 homers easily? lol. He's SO little!
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01-20-2008, 11:30 PM
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Re: General BS
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Originally Posted by schillingouttheks
Khalil Greene hitting 30 homers easily? lol. He's SO little!
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He's listed at 210 pounds, which is 25 pounds heavier than Rico Petrocelli, who averaged over 30 HR/year from 1969-71 because he was getting over 60% of his home runs at Fenway.
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Again, this Khalil Greene thing is a reach:
1) The Padres are thinking of trading Greene;
2) Greene was linked with Boston in trade rumors before Lugo was signed;
3) Boston and San Diego trade frequently; and
4) There is a rumor of an O-Cab for Crisp+Lugo deal, and Greene for Crisp+Lugo works better for Boston while still being a big win for the Padres.
Could happen. Probably not. We'll see. 
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01-21-2008, 08:34 AM
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Re: General BS
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Khalil Greene hitting 30 homers easily? lol. He's SO little!
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If i'm not mistaken he hit 27 HR in 153 games last yr. He plays half his games in a well known pitchers park with a huge roaming OF. Put half his games at Fenway and yes he could easily hit 30 HR.
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01-21-2008, 02:52 PM
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Re: General BS
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If i'm not mistaken he hit 27 HR in 153 games last yr. He plays half his games in a well known pitchers park with a huge roaming OF. Put half his games at Fenway and yes he could easily hit 30 HR.
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Career Splits
Home: 27 HR
Away: 47 HR
GB/FB: 0.77
FB%: 45.5%
Here's Greene's 2007 PETCO hit chart:
http://www.talksox.com/forum/newrepl...reply&p=312570
I count seven outs that would've been two doubles and five home runs had he been playing in Fenway; YMMV. That would've been 32 home runs, not 27...but everything changes in a new league.
BSN07, I'd agree with you--I see Greene as, for better or worse, another Petrocelli.
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01-21-2008, 05:51 PM
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Re: General BS
I know this is all speculation. But I would be willing to be if Towers called Theo or vice versa they would both be willing to talk about it.
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01-22-2008, 08:04 PM
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Re: General BS
Greene=Petrocelli?
Sure.
While you're at it, Crisp=Bernie Williams.
Matsui=Manny Ramirez
You=Common Sense
Compare the stats of those players with players of their time.
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01-22-2008, 08:28 PM
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Re: General BS
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Greene=Petrocelli?
Sure.
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Line up their careers before and up to their breakout seasons (1969 for Rico, 2007 for Greene, when they were about a year apart in age) and consider that Rico had a large home ballpark advantage while Greene had a striking home ballpark disadvantage. Consider the context of each era as well and you're pretty close...both were also similar fielders, good but not stellar in their 20's.
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While you're at it, Crisp=Bernie Williams.
Matsui=Manny Ramirez
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Not really. Coco Crisp has a much cooler name than Bernie Williams. Hideki Matsui has a much larger collection of porn than Manny Ramirez.
Ah, personal attack. 
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01-23-2008, 09:06 AM
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Re: General BS
im trying to remember who told me that they were working out and jim rice stepped on the next treadmill and put in a steamy german bukkake film to run with.
that would be somewhat intimidating
a huge black man watching bulbous erections drenching blonde girls with bad teeth?
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01-24-2008, 12:12 AM
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Re: General BS
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im trying to remember who told me that they were working out and jim rice stepped on the next treadmill and put in a steamy german bukkake film to run with.
that would be somewhat intimidating
a huge black man watching bulbous erections drenching blonde girls with bad teeth?
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You sick fuck. No wonder you live 5 miles from Walpole. You didn't include the well received and universally popular and let's face it fun "Applied Linear Statistical Models" in your argument.
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01-24-2008, 04:28 PM
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Re: General BS
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You sick fuck. No wonder you live 5 miles from Walpole. You didn't include the well received and universally popular and let's face it fun "Applied Linear Statistical Models" in your argument.
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I miss the well received and universally popular BDS9 discussion.
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01-24-2008, 04:29 PM
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Re: General BS
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You sick fuck. No wonder you live 5 miles from Walpole. You didn't include the well received and universally popular and let's face it fun "Applied Linear Statistical Models" in your argument.
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Hey, hey, hey! Walpole is the shit.
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01-24-2008, 04:39 PM
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Re: General BS
Reading around the usual sites, and came across an article saying Lowry from SF is being shopped.
Any thoughts? Anyone see any Red Sox interest?
I figured this might help get the BS flowing in this thread 
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01-24-2008, 07:43 PM
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Re: General BS
1.5WHIP in the NL West? Pass
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01-25-2008, 08:47 AM
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Re: General BS
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1.5WHIP in the NL West? Pass
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Fair enough...LOL
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