Sox, Colon reach minor league deal

[BoSox21]

interesting. I guess the team has found its Tavarez replacement then

[a700hitter]

Originally Posted by BoSox21

interesting. I guess the team has found its Tavarez replacement then

Colon is not going to be a reliever. He has some major life in his arm, and he is motivated to get his career back on track.

[BoSox21]

Originally Posted by a700hitter

Colon is not going to be a reliever. He has some major life in his arm, and he is motivated to get his career back on track.

right, but if the team is concerned about his arm getting gassed by the all-star break, why wouldnt they have him as the long reliever, unless they put Clay back in Pawtucket?

[a700hitter]

Originally Posted by BoSox21

right, but if the team is concerned about his arm getting gassed by the all-star break, why wouldnt they have him as the long reliever, unless they put Clay back in Pawtucket?

Clay is too inconsistent to trust with the ball every 5 days. IMO he'll be the odd man out of the rotation who will get spot starts.

[Jayhawk Bill]

Originally Posted by a700hitter

Clay is too inconsistent to trust with the ball every 5 days. IMO he'll be the odd man out of the rotation who will get spot starts.

Whoa...strongly disagree with you there.

Clay Buchholz is probably going to inherit the mantle of staff ace from Beckett/Matsuzaka, whether it be this year or next year, if he stays healthy.

Buchholz had two bad starts and he hit the DL. No shame there. He had one bad start earlier vs. the Yankees, but he allowed only one walk. I already posted, in considerable detail, the trouble Buchholz had with umpiring his last start. Let's give the guy a chance.

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That said...

...the correlation of two factors does disturb me:

1) His trouble is in road games, and

2) If you check the Red Sox celebration photos at their parties last October, Buchholz was completely trashed.

I hope that it's not an issue, but we could have another Derek Lowe-type problem.

Career split for Clay:

Home: 4-0, 1.39 ERA
Road: 1-4, 6.89 ERA

But give the kid some time, OK?

[YAZMAN]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Not to burst your bubble, but he was topping out at 86 mph in winter ball. 15 teams sent scouts to his starts, none signed him. If he isnt touching 95, he's useless. The rest of his arsenal isnt good enough to stand on its own.

Not to burst your bubble, but don't you wish your F.O. was smart enough to make this move?

[Mr Crunchy]

the yankee front office has been the biggest abortion since gene michael left
steinberger surrounds himself with asswipes,douchebags and assorted other yes men.
when the season ends he looks east,wonders what the sox need and who finished with the best stats in pitching and offense,then opens his checkbook.
they havent made a sound move since they traded roberto""bobby""kelly for paul oneil.

[BoSox21]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk Bill

Buchholz had two bad starts and he hit the DL. No shame there. He had one bad start earlier vs. the Yankees, but he allowed only one walk. I already posted, in considerable detail, the trouble Buchholz had with umpiring his last start. Let's give the guy a chance.

Jon Lester is just the latest example of how people just need to give young pitchers time to develop. And that's not just because of his no hitter, he's allowed 6 earned runs in his last 5 starts.

And about the Clay being trashed at celebratory parties, big deal. I think Paps had a few pops before his performance that made him a riverdancing icon, thats just what ballplayers do

[TheKilo]

Buchholz is what, 23? 23 year olds drink alcohol from time to time.

[Jayhawk Bill]

Originally Posted by TheKilo

Buchholz is what, 23? 23 year olds drink alcohol from time to time.

Yup. And Derek Lowe drank alcohol until 4:00 AM before starting a 1:00 PM Yankees game, too.

The home-road split is a small sample thus far. We'll watch it.

[BoSox21]

I dont care what guys do off-field anyway. as long as they bring their A game to the mound

[Sweet Chin Music33]

Originally Posted by BoSox21

I dont care what guys do off-field anyway. as long as they bring their A game to the mound

Agree.
David Wells threw a perfect game in the bag/hungover.

Who cares if they drink....I do, and I do my job everyday, and yes I do miss Derek Lowe and his off the field stories.

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by YAZMAN

Not to burst your bubble, but don't you wish your F.O. was smart enough to make this move?

we'll see. Sounds like the heater is all the way back. How long he can keep it there will determine his success. As a 97mph flamethrower, he's useful. If he's throwing low 90s, he'll get torched.

[rician blast]

make up you're mind dude, is he gonna get torched or is he gonna get pummeled?

first he's gonna get torched...then he's gonna get pummeled.

[Jayhawk Bill]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Not to burst your bubble, but he was topping out at 86 mph in winter ball. 15 teams sent scouts to his starts, none signed him. If he isnt touching 95, he's useless. The rest of his arsenal isnt good enough to stand on its own.

Hmm...Colon is no good. Let's see how well you predict other pitchers' accomplishments:

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

That being said, those who poo-poo Hughes but hype Buchholz are nuts. Buchholz has a lot to prove, but he certainly has the goods to do so. We shall see how he holds up through the grueling stretch of 162. Lester OTOH, I have been unimpressed by stuff wise. I think he is a fantastic human being in his triumph over cancer, but I am absolutely not sold on his stuff. He is a kid who lives off his curve, yet has poor command of his fastball. Couple that with his career 1.57WHIP and you have the makings of a kid who needs to either improve or get shillacked. He doesnt have the stuff to live as dangerously as he has thus far.

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Lester=Kennedy

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

You are relying on Buchholz and Lester to stay in the rotation for the entire yr. To say that these kids are any more likely to hold down a spot for the yr than our kids is homerism.

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Chamberlain, Hughes, Buchholz, Kennedy, Lester, Delcarmen, Hansen

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

We are doomed if Joba, Kennedy and Hughes arent at least MLB average...What I do know is that our offense and your pen on paper look better than the other. Thats it.

At least you got that "doomed" part right.