Sox, Colon reach minor league deal

[Jayhawk Bill]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Not to burst your bubble, but he was topping out at 86 mph in winter ball. 15 teams sent scouts to his starts, none signed him. If he isnt touching 95, he's useless. The rest of his arsenal isnt good enough to stand on its own.

Not to burst your bubble, but you're blowing smoke.

Rotowire had him at 87-89 mph on January 22, and Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register wrote that he was at 89-91 mph on January 24. At February 7 at BP, Derek Jacques wrote that Colon hit 92 mph in the Caribbean World Series. FWIW, Clay Davenport had him listed as the 11th-best starting pitcher of the Winter Leagues, despite his shock at seeing how the stats came out.

Bartolo Colon is good enough to stand a chance. Let's see how he does in real games with real hitters before we try to belittle his chances while we claim he's throwing 6 mph less than the radar guns are showing.

[BoSox21]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Not to burst your bubble, but he was topping out at 86 mph in winter ball. 15 teams sent scouts to his starts, none signed him. If he isnt touching 95, he's useless. The rest of his arsenal isnt good enough to stand on its own.

what bubble are you bursting? we signed the 2005 Cy Young winner for less cash than is between my couch cushions. theres zero risk and high reward

[example1]

Originally Posted by BoSox21

what bubble are you bursting? we signed the 2005 Cy Young winner for less cash than is between my couch cushions. theres zero risk and high reward

This is pretty much the sentiment that seems appropriate. I've never been a huge Colon fan, but if the Yankees made this move I would applaud them for it.

Similar to Wade Miller, probably a higher upside--particularly since he's an experienced AL pitcher.

[Cityofchampions33]

Originally Posted by Jayhawk Bill

Not to burst your bubble, but you're blowing smoke.

Rotowire had him at 87-89 mph on January 22, and Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register wrote that he was at 89-91 mph on January 24. At February 7 at BP, Derek Jacques wrote that Colon hit 92 mph in the Caribbean World Series. FWIW, Clay Davenport had him listed as the 11th-best starting pitcher of the Winter Leagues, despite his shock at seeing how the stats came out.

Bartolo Colon is good enough to stand a chance. Let's see how he does in real games with real hitters before we try to belittle his chances while we claim he's throwing 6 mph less than the radar guns are showing.

zing! beat me to the punch. my verdict is the same as everyone else's, little risk high reward, great move, etc.

[Cityofchampions33]

per Baseball HQ:
"Colon's high ERA last year was partially due to a 36% H% and 62% S%, so it's reasonable to expect some improvement. Plus, he raised his Dom to pre-injury levels. But that's about it for the good news from the 2007 season - his Ctl rose, and his FB% crept up to the 40% level. Even though his hr/f returned to a league-average value, his hr/9 remained high."

[riverside sluggers]

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Originally Posted by CrespoBlows

He might be able to help in relief, too.

I agree. I'm all for a guy who might hit mid-90s and can throw strikes coming out of the pen. Even if he can only get around 91-93 he can still be useful in the bullpen.

[BoSox21]

I just don't see how anyone can find this to be a bad move. I'm actually surprised the Sox were able to sign him for such little money and with a small likelyhood that he would make the opening day roster. Obviously his value has diminished significantly from 2-3 years ago but with the premium being put on pitching these days, you gotta figure someone would have had at least $5 mil and an opening day rotation spot available for him

[bosoxnation07]

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal..._lightly_here/

Maybe no deal at all.....

[Gom]

A non-move, but no risk to the Red Sox. No guaranteed money whatsoever. He's basically a poor man's Mike Mussina at this point.

[YAZMAN]

Originally Posted by Gom

He's basically a poor man's Mike Mussina at this point.

Except he isn't being relied on to start every fifth day.

[Gom]

Originally Posted by YAZMAN

Except he isn't being relied on to start every fifth day.

Sadly true for us.

[eff u ova speedyquick]

i think colon is groing to win 30 games in the 5 spot of the rotation. he will be AL starting poitcher in the all star game. i am bold and it will happen

ROFLLLLLLL

[schillingouttheks]

Originally Posted by eff u ova speedyquick

i think colon is groing to win 30 games in the 5 spot of the rotation. he will be AL starting poitcher in the all star game. i am bold and it will happen

ROFLLLLLLL

ROFLCOPTER LOLLERSKATES LULZLZLUZUZLUZLZL

Seriously though, he wouldn't be a bad option out of the pen. Good depth signing. I feel like this keeps another Julian Tavarez experiment from happening again. It was successful last year, but I really don't feel like giving him the opportunity to fall back to earth in a starting role this year.

[VandaleIndustries]

Let's just hope Francona handles Colon better than Sosa was handled down here when he signed a minor league contract. hahaha. If he's got it, he's got it, but around the 5th or 6th time the ball hits him in the head, I think it's fair to say he's done (funniest head beaning of Sosa happened on Sammy Sosa night down at the ball park. hahaha).