Bullpen Concerns

[One Red Seat]

He's a singles hitting COF with attitude problems. It is like he wouldn't be wanted at all.

As for the pitching that could be offered, I disagree. The Yankees have more volume to offer, but who cares? Look at half the guys on that list. McCutcheon and Marquez? Nobodies. They are in AAA and have never hit a top-anything list. Kontos? Who? Stop trotting out these types of names as if they have some real appeal. Two years ago it was Clippard and Karstens. Last year it was Chase Wright. These guys don't make headlines just on statisitical performance alone. The scouts have to see something, and outside of the PravdaProspectsPlus - a Yankee fan scouting site - the national scouts have little to say about them. When pressed in the past, the national scouting services were low on Clippard and Karstens and Wright and Kennedy. Looks like their relative silence regarding these guys is telling. Or do I get to trot out names like Zink, who has been awesome in AAA this year?

[TheKilo]

I love watching ORS just completely dismantle Jacko.

[One Red Seat]

I'm not saying that one of those guys won't develop into a decent MLB regular. Just look at Rasner. Thing is, he was picked up on waivers (speaking of which, they should do everything they can to move him now while he looks decent before the other shoe drops - and it will). There's just no buzz about these types of guys. Hughes? I think they can attempt excuse his performance with the injury and use the buzz he had coming into the year. Kennedy? Not so much. Betances and Montero? They'll get you more than Kontos, McCutcheon, and Marquez.

[bosoxnation07]

Throw in the fact that when the Sox Pitching prospects get to the ML, they have for the most part provided good quality pitching. The Yanks Pitching prospects(not named Joba) have provided very little at the ML level. In fact for most, there value as Pitching prospects has fallen. I think this says something about each teams system.

If I'm a GM I'm weary of Yankee pitching prospects.

[YAZMAN]

Originally Posted by bosoxnation07

If I'm a GM I'm weary of Yankee pitching prospects.

Or just weary, period.

[jacksonianmarch]

Originally Posted by One Red Seat

He's a singles hitting COF with attitude problems. It is like he wouldn't be wanted at all.

As for the pitching that could be offered, I disagree. The Yankees have more volume to offer, but who cares? Look at half the guys on that list. McCutcheon and Marquez? Nobodies. They are in AAA and have never hit a top-anything list. Kontos? Who? Stop trotting out these types of names as if they have some real appeal. Two years ago it was Clippard and Karstens. Last year it was Chase Wright. These guys don't make headlines just on statisitical performance alone. The scouts have to see something, and outside of the PravdaProspectsPlus - a Yankee fan scouting site - the national scouts have little to say about them. When pressed in the past, the national scouting services were low on Clippard and Karstens and Wright and Kennedy. Looks like their relative silence regarding these guys is telling. Or do I get to trot out names like Zink, who has been awesome in AAA this year?

Lack of national coverage has more to do with the lack of scouting per se. McCutchen and Marquez havent carved out names for themselves because they were written off rather early. Kontos is a real power pitcher who doesnt get press for whatever reason. How can you be down on a kid who throws 92-95 with a plus slider? Regardless, continue to rag on the system. It doesnt help that the sox have the biggest sports propaganda machine (ESPN) in their pocket and hence have more exposure. You will see.

[Optimist]

At least he's doing good things with his time off...

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[yeszir]

Way to go Ortiz!

[bosoxnation07]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Lack of national coverage has more to do with the lack of scouting per se. McCutchen and Marquez havent carved out names for themselves because they were written off rather early. Kontos is a real power pitcher who doesnt get press for whatever reason. How can you be down on a kid who throws 92-95 with a plus slider? Regardless, continue to rag on the system. It doesnt help that the sox have the biggest sports propaganda machine (ESPN) in their pocket and hence have more exposure. You will see.

I'm at such a loss....please give me a second.......... Ok now that I have picked myslef up off the floor. Dude.... (Insert best pot and kettle joke here), This coming from a Yankee fan is absurd, During the Yanks title run they had a plenty of coverage. Infact up until 2004-2005ish, ESPN's baseball analyst where manly always picking the Yanks to win. Everyone had them running over Detroit on the way to the world series in 05. After that series, everyone seem to take a collective step back on the Yanks. And begin to say that they where never going to win again until they changed the way they did things. But before then the Yanks where always in the press nation wide whether it be the big trade or the big signing. For awhile there all off season long the baseball coverage was pretty much who will the Yanks get this off season.

Granted today there is even more media then ever, so of course it will seem like the Sox are getting more coverage, theres just more of it out there. And when you win and your an interesting topic, then you will also see more air time. The Sox proportion wise are getting no more then what the Yanks used to get.

But don't get me wrong Jacko, got nothing but love for ya trying LOL

[One Red Seat]

Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch

Lack of national coverage has more to do with the lack of scouting per se. McCutchen and Marquez havent carved out names for themselves because they were written off rather early. Kontos is a real power pitcher who doesnt get press for whatever reason. How can you be down on a kid who throws 92-95 with a plus slider? Regardless, continue to rag on the system. It doesnt help that the sox have the biggest sports propaganda machine (ESPN) in their pocket and hence have more exposure. You will see.

That's it? This is the extent of your defense, that ESPN props up the Sox prospects? What a load of bullshit. ESPN catches wind of who blue-chippers are well after the national scouting services have pegged them as potential future stars. And besides, the favorable coverage by ESPN extends to the Yankees too. It's all about the $$. The Yankees fanbase is the biggest in the country, they get catered to every bit as much as the Sox.

These guys might be good in the future, but I know what they aren't now. They aren't enough to be centerpieces for Sabathia.

[Jayhawk Bill]

America became a stronger nation today.

[ksushi]

Congrats to David Ortiz, then! Next goal: run for Governor.

[Coco's Disciples]

My god ORS, no matter how good of a poster you are, I can't take you seriously with that avatar.

[One Red Seat]

It's great, isn't it?

[Coco's Disciples]

Yeah well, for some reason I sometimes associate people's avatars with what they actually look like, and well...yeah.